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Hird also took some of the good stuff...

You may think that, but why would Roos be so quick to move on? If he was 'blindsided' - he certainly changed gears quickly. We all have our own theories - mine is along the lines of: we wanted to keep him at a very reduced rate, or even on the Rookie List, and were expecting that to happen or him not to play football anymore, after he decided he didn't want either of those options, the club moved on very quickly from that. I think they moved on quickly because they know that the longshot he can revive his career isn't worth fighting for. Now it is all about getting something back from this awful scenario.

Excuse me? Good lord.

So he didn't try very hard to keep him?

I like to think of Demonland is a MFC-aligned pub that we are constantly in. We have our Cheers like regulars, there are a few cliques, there are a few crazy people talking nonsense alone in the corner, there are tossbags bagging out the place but never leaving, there are attention seekers trying to get anyone to look at them, there are about 4 women, and there is a general sense of hopelessness that somehow morphs into unchallenged hopefulness and then challenged confidence. At some point, the pub will be right and we will be right in our confidence.

You want to put that bloke in the ruck? The last place I would put that bloke is in the most physically demanding position on the ground.

It's October 2 and not only are we fine with him leaving, we have been for a few weeks now, he already has a nominated club, we have been allowing him to talk to clubs, again, for a few weeks now, and Mahoney has already said we are happy to facilitate a trade to Geelong. None of this smacks of the club trying very hard to keep a bloke.

Melbourne Football Club Supporters Syndrome "Whatever can go wrong, will go wrong, and it will be even worse than what we thought is was going to be. And when things are going right, it will only be a matter of time before this is corrected." Dr rpfc

It is fairly obvious that Roos moved on pretty quickly from his crocked CHF. We haven't fought very hard to keep him have we? I don't think we wanted it to end like this but Roos is a pragmatist - why have such an investment in a bloke who cannot get on the park and doesn't help where we need the most help - in the midfield?

Of course there is. But we are talking about the conduct of Dunn. Which is what brought this topic into this thread.

Fixed. Oddly enough, point remains.

^^^ The dangers of acid, kids.

Here is the confirmation - the club made a mistake - whodathunk it? Hogan said his back injury came to a head when he played for Melbourne against Geelong in the club’s second NAB Challenge match in Alice Springs, back in February. “It was a bit sore going into the game, but the physios insisted it was just tightness. I was training as though I was feeling OK and I was a bit aware of it, but it affected me during the game in the third quarter, when I tried to kick it,” he said. “My whole body seized up and I’ve gone ‘this isn’t tightness’. I basically couldn’t run in the last quarter and then I woke up the next morning and I was basically the same – I was just stiff. http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2014-10-01/hogan-aims-for-round-one-debut

We will see.

If...

It's pure PR management. We will get Pick 3.

The AFL will let clubs know 'provisionally' on the condition they don't get any FAs in. We are the club that asked for this from what I have heard. If we do not intend to bring any FAs in, we can know what Frawley will get us within 24 hours of him leaving.

The club probably advised him to remove it because he should not be conversing with the nuff-nuffs who are frothing at the mouth. Dunn knows Clark, probably is good friends with him, that doesn't change because he leaves the Demons. It's pathetically naïve of you to think that the players should spurn other players that leave a club. Clubs treat players as chattel to achieve an end, players are aware that their careers are at the mercy of those at the clubs. Many on here want to trade out all but a few players - if the club can spurn a player on a whim, why should the players spurn each other for a similar decision by one of their colleagues? This is not some emotional investment in the club for them, it is their career, and we should get over what the club got over ages ago.

Maybe Mitch don't want an incentive based contract? Maybe ethics has nothing to do with what is happening and the 'moral' of the story is that if you don't know the full story, you shouldn't make judgements either way?

What BS. The guy stands up for a soon to be former colleague and we are rabid about it. Effing ridiculous.

Here is Roos' thinking in short hand: Need midfielder more than a bloke who has missed 51 games in the last three years. Money better spent elsewhere.

51 games he has missed in the last three years through injury. 51. How he goes injury free next year is almost irrelevant to his value right now.

Cross came in and was fantastic in our young midfield and actually took some load of Nathan Jones. You like him, yeah? Vince did the same and offered consistency and confidence in the midfield. Tyson was outstanding and joined the other two in great finishes in the Bluey. And as for that trade - if Salem is a 'fringe player' then so is Kelly and Gardiner. Time will tell on that deal. But what time won't tell you is that we needed mids, we still do as you allude to, and Tyson offered exactly what we and Nathan Jones needed that any Pick 2 like Billings or Kelly would not have given him. You are whinging over hypothetical and rumour and talking down the reality of last years trade week which, at this point, looks like a masterstroke.

You mean Cross, Vince, Tyson, Michie, Riley, Salem, and JKH? Wait, he already done that... When criticising hypothetical scenarios that haven't even had the chance to eventuate - it's best to be even remotely correct with the criticism...

The disaster of our list has been abysmal drafting over a decade. Giving Byrnes a two year contract isn't a disaster. And Moneyball? Groan.