Jjrogan

I've never quite understood the constant negativity towards him. Statistically he's more than serviceable. Sure, tough to measure defenders with numbers but  since 2017 he averages over 6  one-percenters a game.. which puts him roughly in the top 25 players in the league. He averages very low clangers (just north of 2), 300th in league.  Intercepts are slightly above league average.  

Perhaps not the greatest one on one defenders but only the elite are.  Now that he's beefed up this will only get better.  (Any danger he can hand over his weight program to Weid?)

Its not just the number of inside 50 differential that is horrific. Its the quality of our entries we have. We have midfielders and half forwards free with time and space AND we have weight of numbers and still cant convert. Lol. Trac, kossi, fritter. You can blame the coaches all you want but at some point you have to admit they are just not any good. And consistency is a trait of being good. 

Just now, MF-C said:

Kozzy applies good pressure - he'll come on soon 

He's fine. Seems a little timid or undecided what to do when he has it.  Team rules and such. Compare it with the arrogance and cheek from Rankine at the other end.  Have to back yourself and your talents in the AFL. If you have space use your speed. 

1 hour ago, manny100 said:

The mids have dropped off big time. We probably have to many similar type  inside players. We seem to always be cramped for space when we get the ball with no one in a good position to feed the ball to. The season is passing us by. Play Bennell now as he offers a skill and distribution difference.

Need another tall forward. Bring Jackson in for the dual Forward/ruck/role.

It looks like we have no system but we actually get the ball enough its just not enough quality players in positions to give it to.

Our connection with forwards is because we do not have enough naturally clever forwards. Bennell knows where to run and how to position himself. Pickett is learning and has natural forward ability.. Play them both.

 

This is exactly right. When something doesnt work, you change it up. The definition of insanity and all. 

Also, spend the next 24 months kicking as many balls at luke jackson as possible and develop him exclusively into a marking mobile forward.  His edge is his athleticism. Its wasted tapping it to one of our midfielders presently.

1 hour ago, binman said:

You can't coach skill errors? What does that even mean?

What you can do is recruit players who will make skill error for their whole careers. And choose not to recruit barely a single elite kick in 8 years.

And then you can marry that decision with a game plan that, like any game plan, relies on players hitting targets inside 50 (or if bombing it in at least kicking it to a forwards advantage) and not making dozens of ridiculous turnovers every game (because of the decision to recruit players who will make skill error for their whole careers).

And then you can go to post match press conference and wearily answer the same question about connection going inside 40. And promise we will work on it.

Unlike you Saty i don't blame the players. If you don't have the skills, you don't have the skills. You might improve a bit (or like Salem and Oliver you might go backwards) but there is no magic fairy dust that is suddenly going to make a rubbish kick into a good one.

Again, both Roos and Goodwin are to blame for our list and our current problems as their recruiting strategy as been to weighted towards contest ball winners at the expense of skill. 

 

 

This is absolutely spot on. 

Furthermore, after the departure of Hogan, the FD put their eggs in the wrong basket, banking on Weiderman being a KPF and giving up pick 6 (ben king...) to acquire May.  May is top player, but its turned out to be an abject misreading of the list requirements.  

After rolling the dice on SW to then not give him games 18 months down the line is utterly baffling. He is only 23, give him a string of games out of the goal square. If he gets beaten, so be it. But he will drag a tall away from Fritsch and Tmac.  

Petracca is playing some game. He has clearly taken his game to the next level.

He's the only midfielder id trust to make a good decision and execute it into fifty. Viney dead last.  Got to trade him or Brayshaw out for a decent forward whilst they still have value. 

In years past players held their positions. 

Enforcing two players from each team within the 50 metre arc at all times would effectively be analogous to reducing the teams to 16 without actually changing the number of players (for the purists).

It would also have the added benefit of different types of players being part of lists.  Lockett wouldnt get a game right now..  doesnt chase, not fit enough and not allowed to elbow jaws.  But if a player doesnt have to run 10 km a game, power forwards would make a come back.  Resting ruckman up forward would be a serious match up threat.  You would be rewarded from quick transition from half back. Right now, one sideways kick and you're facing eighteen men in a zone. 

the two enforced players dont have to be the same for the whole game.  It wont be netball because the players dont have to be specified.  Eg If you see a match up advantage it may allow senior leaders to direct on the fly.  Eg, trac goes deep goal square for 10 minutes etc.  Only issue is the umpires have to pay attention, but a quick glance and counting to 4 is not that hard. 

Why do people think the these 'habits' will disappear.  Where's the evidence? These guys have been playing football for 15+ years. Goodwins been coach for 3 years+. But suddenly, theyll become good decision makers by coaching in july 2020?  At what point do you admit its just not in their dna  (which has other great attributes). 

Rightly,  the coaching emphasis is on 'foward connection', but if you're not an instinctive excellent decision maker like pendlebury etc players end up getting confused, nervous, in two minds. Which we're starting to see a lot of. 

Simply must change the coach, the game plan or the personnel if we dont see results by year end.

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

How good is our forward line hey.

1 minute ago, Jaded said:

A mark. A [censored] contested mark. A miracle. 

2 minutes ago, Buzzy said:

It's just not working for Melksham today.  

Our forward line is impotent.

4 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

And cost us a goal in the first.

Outs next week....mfc fwd line.

Our list needs a quality key forward. This game illustrates it yet again.  And we need to sacrifice a contested midfielder.  Dominating inside 50s and contested possessions is a game plan that is not working with the current list

We have only one guy on our list who has kicked more than 35 goals in a season. Once.  

We have abundance of contested mids. 

Viney + 1st rounder for jeremy cameron (via essedon etc) has to be a year end consideration.

Fwiw, in 2018 we were 9-6 without jv.

He's a fantastic player but if there's one team in the afl that can give up an inside mid for a key forward to correctly balance their list, its mfc.