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Up against the rest of the league, I'm not so sure? As I suggested earlier, the West Coast mids next year of Shuey, Nic Nat, Yeo & Tim Kelly are so far ahead of us it hurts to think about. That's just the most obvious example

I'd go something like this; Tracc T-mac Fritsch Lockhart Jenkins Melksham We are still light on for a genuinely exciting small forward, not sure Butler really helps there either. You need 2 real A-grade KPF's to have a number of good smalls, so we are stuck with Mid-size HFF's filling gaps I'll also add, the way we tend to dump the ball into the 50 probably suits Jenkins. He'll win plenty of opportunities just out of panic from backmen infringing with his size close to goal.

I really like Harmes, don't get me wrong. Just think our starting 4 midfielders vs West Coast 2020 highlights how far off we are. Max and Clayton break even, then we get smoked

@daisycutterThat is probably a bit rough, I agree. He is a brilliant clubmen and the effort is always there. How much time would the opposition put into worrying about Harmes each week? Edit: I should add that we are comparing against the rest of the AFL here

I'd like to see where everyone rates that list compared to Bucky. For me; T-Mac & Viney down to B- KK down to C May up to B Tracc up to B- Rest I am relatively comfortable with.

This will upset many here, but I feel he is pretty close to the mark.