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12 minutes ago, Dr evil said:

Mate, i totally understand people pointing out i got this one wrong. but surely you understand things change in silly season. as of 3 days ago when i last posted this my source of information was very confident he was coming. that's how quickly things change. 

Not a huge fan of being called a clown though, i have been pretty happy to cop getting this wrong, and i've been posting here for a long time. i don't really think name calling is needed. it's all a bit of fun. 

Sadly I feel you have dug your own grave here mate.

I personally like the info you have shared with us but perhaps your wording should have been a bit different.

Big difference between  "I am very confident he is coming" and "Smith will 100 percent be a demon" 

People on here can be very harsh on posters who share info that doesn't come to fruition. 

Anywho, I hope this doesn't deter you from sharing info you may receive. 

12 hours ago, Elegt said:

No. We don't want him

Speak for yourself. 

Id love him back if we gave up peanuts to Freo.

14 hours ago, Jack7 said:

After 6 months of Covid,hubs,3 games in 9 days,we miss the finals by a Solitary kick of the Football.

 

Against the Cats,we had a set shot with 15 seconds to go in the match,ball slides left of the Goalpost for a point and we lose by 3.

 

1 Kick,that's how close we came!!!

 

We have a better list than the Bulldogs,but they beat us and Freo

 

Considering from 2010-20,only the Suns have won less games than us,not surprising.

The Dogs list is unquestionably superior to ours. Much more balanced team. 

They have us covered for talent and on almost every line they either break even with them or are outright better. 

They also have the heart and grit that we lack and desperately need to find. 

There is absolutely nothing in it. 

Who cares, winning this award this year is as impressive and meaningful as being the tallest kid at kindergarten. 

13 minutes ago, Deesprate said:

Good on u Gary Lyon named names spot on

I turned off early, What did he say?

Never mind, just read the others summaries. 

1 minute ago, Cassiew said:

Well this is in the bag. I’m really proud of the effort here. Can’t think of anyone who’d complain about this one.

New to Demonland? 

The Spargo haters looking like absolute muppets now....

1 hour ago, Kent said:

what the hell is Tmac doing there

As in playing down back?

22 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

I'm officially starting the #PlayJackVineyforward campaign. @A F and I have been banging on this drum for 2 years and I think now is the time to pull the trigger.

As everyone here knows, I'm a big Simon Goodwin fan and a big Jack Viney fan. 

Jack has been having a very good year in the midfield but the honest facts are that he's behind Christian Petracca and Clayton Oliver in the pecking order and he's very similar to Oliver in focus on first possession.  As has been widely discussed, the shorter quarters and season is providing less scope for midfield rotations and 3 starting mids instead of 4 is the current core requirement.  I think that Angus Brayshaw provides more of a point of difference in there and that Petracca, Oliver and Brayshaw is the go-to combination - another factor in this is that Angus has shown his breakaway from the stoppages delivers tremendous metres gained and he struggles to be effective elsewhere.

The facts are we're a developing team that's currently middle of the road and we need to make a quantum step to mix it with the best teams - the key problem has been our connection with the forward line but that has been improving with Weed's establishment.  Viney has all the attributes to make a real difference to converting our chances, locking it in and causing defender chaos balls if it does come back out.  He is incredible in the contest and has the rare ability to beat a couple of opponents that is required when outnumbered down there.  I laugh when I hear opposition supporters say he is slow - he is lightning over the first 3 metres, his tackling is legendary and opposition defenders will be crying themselves to sleep the night before playing us because if Jack doesn't get you, Kossie will and if you happen to escape the back 50 you'll run into Vanders.

Jack might see his move from the midfield as a demotion and might play angry - look out!  But the small forward role is glamour - I know he's a different type of player but think Robbie Gray. Toby Green and Cyril.  He can be a legend down there.

Come on Simon, you know it makes sense.

I have been meaning to start a similar thread (The Toby Green Model) for a few weeks now. I agree with you almost completely.

I feel we should have a look at doing "A Toby Green" with Jack. Years ago, before the GWS midfield became super stacked, Green was there best young mid by far. Racking it up in a team get smashed week in week out. Over time they acculimalted a gluttony of elite mids and they were forced to adjust. Just like we are now. Over the course of a few seasons Green went from one of GWSs excess mids to a AA level small/mid sized forward. 

Green still attendants center bounces and rotates through the midfield but his core role is a goal kicking, hard edged competitive forward. I cant see a  reason why Jack cannot emulate a similar reinvention of himself as a player. His set shot goal kicking is actually very good, hes ability to bust tackles and snap the ball is also elite. He break tackles from guys much much larger than him, so  the small defenders are going to have a real rough time lining up against him and holding him down. The biggest weakness or attribute he is missing is the ability to compete overhead.

Moving jack forward for the majority of game time allows Gus to play his natural role and Oliver/Trac can all rotate with Jack when ever they need a rest or we need to mix it up in the center. This of course may all fall in a heap if jack is unable to perform up forward  however I don't see a downside of giving it a crack for the rest of this year to see if we can't improve overall as a team.  I'm not saying Jack will become as good a forward as Green but I can see him kicking 30-40 goals a year and also extended his playing career much longer. 

Additionally to Viney going forward I would push Tmac back to CHB were he can find form and releases Lever to roam a bit more. I feel Tmac is a much better defender then Tommo who should be running up and down the wing as we recruited him to . 

My best hypothetical 22 would be:

Lever - May - Rivers

Hibberd - Tmac - Salem 

Langdon - Oliver - Tommo

Fritch - Jackson -  Melk

Pickett - Wied - Viney

Gawn - Gus - Petracca 

INT - Harmes - Hannan - Spargo  -  Sparrow

I feel this straightens us up and really allows the players to play roles they are suited for. 

3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Only the 3 score involvements and 1 goal assist but didn't have a clanger, had good pressure numbers and I thought he was getting to the right spots around half forward and using the ball very cleanly. 

Goals would be nice but I don't think that's what he's in the team for. It's more likely we have Pickett in the side if we want a dangerous crumber, but there's room for Pickett closer to goal and for someone like Spargo around half forward. 

ANB had better numbers but his fumbles and poor approach to tackling will always cost us, where as Spargo did the same kind of role in a more efficient way.

I agree mate, he had a good game and is a possibility to  play round 1 IMO. 

Not huge numbers but was noticeably clean out there tonight.

The hate this kid gets on here is ridiculous, the kids a 20 year old ffs.  

14 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Joel Smith , Joel Smith Or Joel Smith. If Oscar plays it is an indictment on the FD Because Sam Frost was outsatnding in very very ordinary company and in spite of faults he is light years ahead of Oscar!!

Im starting to think you're not a fan of oscar.....

8 minutes ago, durango said:

I agree with your view but I think this boy is going to be better than both Young or Enright, he has a more aggressive approach and had a limited pre-season along with glandular fever to disrupt his season but he still put in a great season

That is extremely optimistic. I hope you are right!

58 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Or wait until Port make their pick then get on the phone to the Lions. Unless they want him.

I read somewhere last night the Lions were very keen on him. 

12 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

It’s baffling that Green slid to 10 when he’s a clear top 5 pick. GWS get another freebie!

Once he got past GWS's first pick at 4 it made no difference when he went.  

22 hours ago, Good Lord George said:

Sure, but he kicked 21 in a team that played finals (albeit briefly). How many would he have kicked with the way our mids delivered the ball? 

I'm not against picking him up to increase depth. But at nearly 30, how long are we realistically going to have him on the list? One year, max.

Yeah, I'm not sold on the idea of picking him up either, just pointing out to that his output isn't as terrible as some have suggested . Some of the remarks about him in this thread have been outrageous. 

Kicked 21 goals form 16 games. Our leading goal kicker this year kick 22 in 22 games.

Young and Kemp seems the most likely outcome. We chased 8 for a reason.

Even if we split 3, Kemp seems to be our target at 8. 

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

That’s if he is there at 8 and if he is the one we want.

My theory is that the only reason with bought pick 8 was for Kemp.  Id say we know he will be there at 8. 

On 10/23/2019 at 2:53 PM, spirit of norm smith said:

Good call. He is better than most of the Top picks imo in the thin-highly compromised draft next year. That’s why I like the swap with Kangas

I'm convinced this has been our plan the whole time and that we will take Kemp at 8. We traded next years first for him but he wont play in 2020. He will be effectively our first pick in the 2020 draft. Really good trading IMO, we get a top 5 talent next year regardless of our finishing place in 2020. 

With GWS chasing pick 3 and Geelong also wanting a pick in the top ten, maybe we could try something like this?

Trade 3 and future second(hawks) to GWS for 6 and Caldwell (or another decent player) 

Then on trade 6 and 50 to Geelong for 14 and 17  and hope to get Weightman at 14. 

I also think we should give Sam murray a chance as he will cost us nothing. 

IN: Tomlinson, Langdon, Caldwell, Murray, Picks 14 (Weightman), 17, 26

Out: Frost, Pick 3, 22, 41, Future second 

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

We should push to trade our pick 3 for their pick 6 and Caldwell.

If we pulled that off, we’d be trading in a future gun midfielder who can play both inside and outside (plays best outside) and draft another elite talent with pick 6 such as Ash, Flanders, Serong etc.

Make it happen Dees!

I like the Idea, but I think they would want more. Next years 2nd rounder maybe?

9 minutes ago, The Swimming Dee said:

Thanks. Inconsistency by foot doesn't sound great

Not ideal, but kicking efficiency and pace seem to be a trade off in the AFL. Its rare to find a player that has both. 

19 minutes ago, The Swimming Dee said:

How good is Caldwell? I don’t know anything about him. Is he quick, good foot skills?

This is from Knightmare's 2018 Phantom draft over on Bigfooty. 

7. Jye Caldwell (VIC)
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 184cm, 78kg
Recruited from: Bendigo Pioneers
Projected draft range: 5-15
Similar to: Luke Shuey
Rationale: Caldwell has had limited exposure with just three TAC Cup matches this year due to hamstring troubles. A powerful ball-winner with breakaway speed. Moves up power rankings on the back of review of match tape as a prospect who has been out of sight/out of mind for much of the season.
October Ranking: 14
Strengths:
Stoppage work
Contested ball-winning
First possession winner
Distribution by hand
Acceleration from the contest
Competitiveness
Tackling
Dual sided kick
Weaknesses:
Consistency by foot
Little exposed form due to injury

16 minutes ago, dl4e said:

I can think of 4 people we could use at FF. TMAC, Wiedeman, Petty and J Smith. Why do some people think that a 31 year old very ordinary player even on play lunch money could be a benefit for us. We may as well recruit Menzel as well to blob around jenkins and our forward woes will be fixed for ever.. 

Those four played 36 games for 35 goals.....Jenkins scores 22 goals from 11 games.