leave it to deever

I don't understand why unlike us, the umpires came storming out of the blocks and gave the blues 11 frees in the first quarter to our 3 and then only awarded 8 more to them for the rest of the game. I also didn't get why for 3 quarters of the game they completely ignored htb and then decided to pay it non stop. The htb particularly frustrating because we were not getting our tack to es rewarded. It must be hard for the players when one rule comes and goes in the course of a single game. Also the dob seems to be a coin toss . One which blues got the benefit of at least three times and one seemingly influenced by who has the most supporters. It's hard not to think the umpires had a Carlton win plan last night. That Jvr free for dangerous tackle was a shocker and umpires need to be better than that.

And we didn't capitalize on our 61 i50s to 41. Our tall fwds are not much chop. Jvr is averaging a goal a game. Petty much less than. Disco one a game but only starting. It's doing much.

They need to fine players to stamp that out. It's very dangerous. Not so much this one but it sets a precedent for other players to do the same

Even if he did deliberately put his head to ground it was still soft.

And seemingly determined by the crowd noise at times.

Interesting that a lot of the players who had big games last week were flat. Kozzie, Langdon, Lever, Fritta, Petty and Oliver in particular.

Not how it looked to.me or the commentary.

You don't think 11 to 3 in the first quarter was unreasonable,? Those dob were very soft. That none or our tackles got us a htb decision in the first 3 quarters then it's paid everywhere? That the call of dangerous tackle cost us a goal and the four points? You should get a job umpiring. Seriously that was an atrocious effort by the umpires tonight. It actually put me off the game. That they could give that many soft frees in the first twenty mins of the game was just silly and uncalled for. About four of them were strong frees and they missed about four of ours. Then they stopped giving frees pretty much. Half handed out in one quarter. why? The game was over at quarter time so I guess they didn't have to do anything else. A classic case of over umpiring. And yet not for genuine htb. They ignored all of Carlton's incorrect disposal for three quarters for some reason. Last week we couldn't sneeze without the umps pinging us for htb.

And we lost centre clearances by four. An issue that was killing us till the last. I know we had Tracca fwd but when the blues did win a cc it resulted in a goal more often than our wins.

True but the 61 to 41 inside fifties for us has a tired same old Dees feel about it. Once again inaccurate kicking against Carlton cost us a game That goal that Kozzie missed was strange. Running into an open goal he looked away from it and then kicked. No wonder. The blues did well to flood our fwd line most of the night I guess. And our midfield allowed theirs to bomb it into theirs asap. I guess credit due to the fightback. It's hard to credit a team that doesn't score at all in the first quarter though. We started like that in three of our last four games. I know we finish strong but..... Something is broken with those beginnings.

Thank you so much. Not just the ones not paid but 11 frees to Carlton in the first to our three was putrid. That's equivalent to 44 to 12 for a game. Who wouldn't object to that? Most of them were just soft gimees and then in the last quarter the umpires remember there is a htb rule. Instead of all the ones they missed prior. I really hope we ask for an explanation but it won't change anything. Umps seriously looked like having an agenda tonight and that free called dangerous helped them achieve it. Despite our poor start we would have won if the umpires did their job without bias. They got sucked in four times with dob by the crowd. Cowards . It really puts one off the game when they get umpired like this.

I would have subbed Woey on at half time. That was slow from Goody. Tracca fwd was great but Goody missed that one.

Yes but that's all they'll admit. Forget the 11 to 3 anomaly of putrid softies that helped a five zip insurmountable first quarter lead. The game was won with that and then lost by the one they might decide to admit. It's a double whammy. Because we were good enough in the end but despite the anomaly we were putrid at the start. Jack Viney was missing first three quarters. Our 3 tall fwds were missing and with Fritta down that's all folks. Full credit to Tracca tonight. Anb was great for me. What a painful loss from a game that could have at least been a draw if we could have pushed a point on the first. Again to not score on the first quarter means our preparation is really out of whack. Are we meditating beforehand? It's a strange way to play.

Our midfield were sound asleep at the start. It's happened three times this year. What are they doing before the game. Watching TV?

Thanks GC Dee. I thought the 11 frees in the first was an utter disgrace. An actual blight on the game. Ok we played poorly but take away Mays touched ball the only one the video can't decide on and that cheating effort that got a free for dangerous tackle and we Won by two goals. So the umpiring did cost us a game no matter how we played. It's a absolute poor effort by the umpires tonight. Maybe the Afls needs to ask questions about this one and how the blues lead the free kick differential by so much. It really is disappointing to see a game ruined by such poor performances from them. Dock their pay or check if they have betting accounts.

You can't beat the umpires. We almost did but they have the whistles. The end of the day it the umpiring was a bloody dogs breakfast. What a fitting end with a free.

Blues fans must surely be tired from booing all night.

Gee well probably lose by the touched goal and the staged free dangerous tackle.

I know we have played poorly but some even handed umpiring would have us almost even. Good night folks. Sorry about the umpires. We knew it would happen. I just hope someone actually addresses it. Expose that 11 to 3 start and the five goals to zero that came with it . Not that we really deserved a win but nobody likes dodgy umpiring.

That's it I'm giving this game away. That is just fair dinkum cheating. That could have been the spark. That player is a cheat and should be suspended given the head protection.

Wow Petty took a mark. A target in the middle.

Yep. We are supposed to have the best midfield about. I know Traccas fwd but it's really struggling this year. Gee the umps make up the htb rule hot and cold

Bit our midfield has let Carlton walk it in unencumbered. Add an impotent three talls fwd in Petty, Turner and Jvr and we were always in trouble. Since we have gone down fighting I'd suggest we need to fix our pregame routine. Why were we so flat at the start? Jard to account for that start. Exactly the same as lions and tigers ( ha ha) games. Shocking sleepy start with fightback later. Not good enough

I really haven't seen Viney do a lot this year. I don't like to say it but he's having a low season and probably why our midfield seems flat

Sadly may have got too excited about Petty so soon. Anb has been great. Who knows maybe the blues will expire. There was some sloppy play at times but we outscored. I just think that five goal bump to zero is too much. I am so angry about how the umps were giving away frees in the first. It will come back to bite us And to hear blues supporters whinge is not helping.