ArtificialWisdom

20 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

You'll have to buy the Premium package (which they have now renamed Basic) at $35 per month for two screens

It's this drop from 3 down to 2 concurrent streams that will be most significant for many. And I imagine it will go unnoticed by allot of people until round 1 when they all tune in at once and it won't work. 4K is just a smoke screen to distract from a sizable 50% price hike from $11.66 to $17.50 per user

21 hours ago, WheeloRatings said:

Ball up
0.4.4 - 1.1.7

Throw in
0.0.0 - 1.0.6

We know both of these goals were from defensive 50 stoppages. Given our shocking record in that statistic has been a talking point this year do you have an easy way to note that going forward, will be interesting to see if improves over the back half of the season.  

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/afl-23-releasing-april-13.1289336/page-215#post-78367791

There's their more up to date ratings. With Trac and Clarry rightly taking top spot at 94.

11 hours ago, MrFreeze said:

I think I confused myself trying to calculate draft values 

Edit: I should've stated the top 10 picks go to dogs so it's 

Dees

In: Naughton

Out: Jackson, 3rd-4th rounder 

Dogs

In: Lobb, Tomlinson, x2 top 10

Out: Naughton, 3rd-4th rounder 

Freo

In: Jackson

Out: Lobb, x2 top 10 picks 

I can only assume that for this to happen. You're planning on spiking Peter Bell's drink before he walks into the negotiation room then making the decision on his behalf. They don't want to give up Lobb, but you've basically asked them to pay massive overs for Jackson and give Lobb away for free. Even if the two 3rd/4th rounders that have vanished into thin air and up at Fremantle, that's still a horrible deal for them. 

For what it's worth I think most of us assume this is between a 0 and 0.0001% chance of happening....buuuuut in the interest of fun my mega trade hypothetical would be something like

Melbourne sends Jackson to Freo along with Tomlinson and pick 32 to the Dogs

Freo send pick 13 and Lobb to the Dogs 

And the Dogs send Naughton to Melbourne 

---------

Dogs IN Lobb, Tomlinson, 13, 32 OUT Naughton

The Dogs get 2 ready made but old players to help at both ends of the ground and a high end draft talent (with their own pick 11 could on trade that and 13 into the top 10) but lose their best forward. They still probably consider this a net loss... Despite the ins

Freo IN Jackson OUT: Lobb, 13

Freo get Jackson without giving up 2 firsts or finding a top 10 pick and give away a guy that want to keep but who also doesn't want to be there. They'd likely consider this a break even but the rest of the footy world would think it's a win. 

Melb IN Naughton OUT Jackson, Tomlinson and 32.

Melbourne get their man but pay thought the nose for him. But frankly to pull a contracted superstar from another team expecting to contend would be win in itself.

Anyways that was a fun waste of time

2016 Hawks finished 3rd with the 6th best percentage thanks largely to a 6-0 record in games decided under 10pts. 8-1 in games decided under 20

The went out in straight sets to Geelong and WB

I think with his marking ability and his mild success was down forward in the past. There is more than fair case that Petty could make it as a forward. However, Petty is May's heir apparent, He continues to take steps to be coming an elite defender.

Our long-term success is predicated on our defence remaining strong. We know that we've got Lever for years and a lot of younger small defenders. Developing a player like Turner to come in and play as the 3rd tall while Petty prepares to play the number 1 allows us to have a defence that will last for years. Moving Petty away now requires an emergency.

I don't think we're at that point, and frankly, I don't really think we're close to that point. The last two weeks we've tried a shorter forwardline and managed to score north of 90 both times, On top of that, it's encouraged faster ball movement which is also better for our mids. And allowed Brown to get more involved again even if he's not clunking big marks. So far this year we've only given up more than 80pts 3 times, As long as we can keep our average score above 80, I don't think the forward line is as big a problem as people think it is. 

Doesn't mean it's not frustrating at times, but a constant reliable defence is more important than the luxury of 1 maybe 2 forward contested marks a game. Use him as a swing man in game if we need but other than that just let him continue to develop and he may well turn into an All Australian as few years from now.

Just finished it as well, it's a fantastic listen.

If I was a West coast fan, I wouldn't be fearing a 150 point loss, that's not the Melbourne way.

What I might be fearing is sitting there at 3/4 time without a goal on the board. Guarantee that'll be the only number Melbourne cares about.

3 minutes ago, Olgreybeard49 said:

Thanks for your reply. By what method did it come through? My 'ticket' just has a 'ticketmaster verified' footer and the More Options button is inactive (light grey).

I had to close the app and open it again. But after selecting tomorrow's game you should now see it has the 'show barcode' button to the left of where it currently says 'ticket details'

4 minutes ago, Olgreybeard49 said:

Currently setting a record for on hold hearing the club song on repeat.  Any clues appreciated.

Mine finally came through literally 2 minutes ago. Try looking again now

18 hours ago, anfieldniner said:

Has anyone seen anything on Foxtel about a Melbourne documentary titled The Curse of Norm Smith (or something similar)?  A colleague told me earlier today that they saw something advertised on Fox Footy. Haven't seen anything in regards to this

 

I haven't seen anything advertised but every year they do a special with the premiership winners. The Richmond ones are still on Kayo. "The Fighting Fury", "Redemption" and "One night in Brisbane". The West Coast one is too, "We're Flying High"

The AFL the last few years is also released coaching audio from the game. Always a fascinating listen. It's called Sound the alarm. Last year they released the Richmond prelim against port Adelaide as well. I'd love to hear our prelim against Geelong as Scott watches on helplessly as Max made a mockery of them. 

As for the club, they record everything. I'm not sure when they will release it but they will release some kind of documentary for the season. I suspect that they'll have some behind the scenes stuff lined up to go with the December 5 celebration. At least I would if I was planning it. But as for a full documentary style thing. We'll have to wait. Maybe they'll wait until we finish our three-peat 😉

One thing these all have in common is they are usually released in the lead up to the season the following year. So we may have a few months to wait. 

21 minutes ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Wondering what Chandler would be worth....pick 30ish?

 

I'm a fan and don't want to see him go but the club has been happy to let players go if they're going for opportunity think Hannan and Preuss last year. There was a noticeable push a few years back to be reasonable on all deals even if that meant not haggling the perfect outcome for us, respect for the player's wishes always seems to come first.

A rookie with <5 games. If he wants to go I wouldn't expect any more than a pick in the 60s or 70s.

https://www.theaflstore.com.au/products/melbourne-demons-2021-premiers-seasons-highlights

https://www.theaflstore.com.au/products/melbourne-demons-2021-premiers-victory-pack

https://www.theaflstore.com.au/products/melbourne-demons-2021-premiers-dvd

3 different DVD or DVD packs. The middle one specifically says alternate commentary 

The last one was available through the club store on the night (also as a blu-ray for those of us in the 21st century). But they both disappeared, idk if that means sold out or if they'll be back

32 minutes ago, Rossmillan said:

1. Christian Petracca almost immediately took off his Norm Smith Medal.  Maybe I’m reading to much, but I wonder if this is another team first action.  He mentioned on the Sunday footy show it was in his bag but nothing else I’ve seen.  Anyone heard any commentary on this?

I don't want to belittle the action but it's kind of the done thing these days. Dusty did it for all his Norms. A few players have done it with the ANZAC medal in recent years. In fact I think Trac did it when he won the ANZAC eve medal earlier this year too. And players also talk down the Brownlow/B&Fs and such, seems all those accolades take a back seat until retirement.

53 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

It happened in a tackling drill and you probably see a heap of tackles like that during a training session. 

I did have to chuckle at that (after we were told he was ok). All this commotion about a scratch match and he does it in a regular training drill. 

Prelim final day! Nothing can save us now, it's do or die

3 hours ago, FritschyBusiness said:

Smith was right next to Cameron and turned the wrong way as Salem handballs it to him.

Cameron capitalises because Smith wasn't looking, it was the worst of his mistakes for the night

Sorry to rain on the Hang Smith parade. But Salem is clearly responsible for Cameron from the Centre bounce in this instance. I don't know why, it's clearly not the norm, perhaps there was an undesirable interchange switch after Clarry's goal. But Salem comes up to the contest fails to clear it and leaves Charlie out the back. Not at all a smith mistake

My best guess based on that list:

Backline

Stewart May Lever

Allir Weitering Rich

Midfield

Gawn(c) Wines Oliver

Bont Walsh Miller

Forwards (+ Mids who can play forward)

Petracca Hawkins Stringer

Greene McKay Papley

Interchange (Mids who couldn't fit in the 18)

Salem Parish Macrae Zorko

I would have had Boak in but apparently I can't choose him so I'll go with Zorko. 

I think I'm being greedy having Salem on the bench so of they go NicNat he'll probably fall out but I feel like a bloke that can't play more than 15 minutes a game shouldn't be in the side

Papley and Cameron you could flip a coin, I think Cameron had a slow start to the year so I went Papley

I hope Gawny gets the captaincy, I think the dogs free fall might have cost Bont his chance at it, but I wouldn't be upset at Greene getting it his leadership turned that side around mid year. Other than that there isn't many choices

6 hours ago, Garbo said:

I’d love if the followers line was Gawn, Oliver, Petracca all together 

I'd love this too but unfortunately Trac's too good so they'll make him a forward so they can get Wines and Walsh in the middle

45 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

What was it, 5/6 years ago these sides played possibly the worst game of all time?

How far we've come

3 minutes ago, demonstone said:

The real question is which Demonlander will be the first to trot out that tired, stale old cliche about "bathwater".

Can't talk about bathwater when their heads are too big to get through the bathroom door

In the last 10 years Hawthorn in 2013 is the only team to finish 1st and win the flag. Is it bad? I don't think so. But it doesn't really help when September comes around.

3 minutes ago, A F said:

It has to increase the chances that our Port game is played at Geelong or in Tassie.

My tip is Friday night at Marvel. 

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

Meanwhile The Age is reporting both Brisbane and GC are leaving Queensland today: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/lions-head-to-melbourne-suns-on-the-move-20210629-p5854s.html

Whilst Brisbane was always planning to come here early before going to Adelaide, GC is supposed to be hosting Richmond on the GC on Thursday night. So if this report is correct, change is afoot.

A Victorian hub for the next 1-3 weeks is looking increasingly likely.

Suns vs Dees in a few weeks will be an interesting watch this space type of deal. Could turn into a local game for us.

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Email from the club - Interesting bit in bold

Footy is back at the 'G!

As an away access member, you will be able to redeem a ticket to our upcoming Round 15 match.

Melbourne Away Access Member On-Sale
Friday 25 June from 12pm (AEST) until sold out

Given the limited capacity, it is highly unlikely tickets will go on sale to the general public.

 

Hell even as an away member I'm concerned there won't be enough tickets. We're entirely dependent on Essendon fans choosing not to go.