stevethemanjordan

Yeh. Ever thought why?

Arousal levels high after a disappointing loss the week prior? I'm not surprised. And I won't be if we win. The real challenge will always be backing it up. Against St Kilda. Then Brisbane. Then Collingwood.

The frequency at which you throw around the word "star" is super cringeworthy.

I predict Harry 'no-name' Himmelberg to kick 11 in Patton's absence.

Hola? Might want to brush-up on your Balinese..

Generally the more players an opposition side has out, the less likely we are to win. It's awesome.

Ummm. Oscar McDonald anyonnnneeeee?

I can't understand these sorts of statements. If he were a Melbourne player would you think otherwise? What were you thinking Viney or Hogan would become after their first years? What about Selwood after his first year? There's generally a reason football media people, team-mates, past players etc predict these things early on. Lever is the full package. Personality traits, football ability, physical attributes. He possesses all the building blocks to become the player he is predicted to become. Just like those others I've mentioned. And the reason you pay overs sometimes is to land someone of that quality. Keep in mind he was pick 14 in his draft year. A year in which he didn't play a single game because of a knee reco. He was a talked as a potential number 1 pick before he did his knee. In an injury interrupted second year of football, he will potentially make the 40 man AA squad as a key defender. I'd say that's a fairly good indication that with a full pre-season and injury free season he will be an AA defender soon enough.

Agree with JTR. Gone are the days where you draft a Mal Michael-sized full back. The game requires more from key position players now and big guys are more and more agile, athletic and fast. So the same needs to be said for key defenders. They need versatility. And Lever has that in spades. Watch highlights of him on YouTube and you'll see how good he is. If anything, Oscar will be closer to the "gorilla" type that posters seem to long for. He just needs to continue to put weight on to match it physically with the big guys. Getting Lever will also relieve Oscar from having to do things that he can't which clearly he is having to try and do at the moment. Lever would solve so many problems. I don't even know where to begin.

^ It hasn't been posted yet, because it's got nothing to do with the subject of this thread..

No, she's also from Melbourne and is part of the reason he is weighing up a move back south.

Thanks Goody.

Watching them in action is probably the best evidence.

We face the opposite way of whatever it is that you're watching. I can tell you that much.

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-02/all-silent-on-leverdemons-trade-speculation Already my new fav MFC player

That doesn't mean Lynch was always going to stay at the Crows but you also haven't provided any evidence to show that Lynch met with any other clubs. You are recalling that we were "a long way down the track with him". Please share the evidence. It's funny that you list Hogan as elite and a player who'd command that sort of coin but not Lever. To say that he has "potential" only at this stage means one of two things: Either you are the typical demonlander who doesn't really take notice of other players and who exaggerates our own talent pool or you just don't know a good footballer from a bad one. Let me put it this way. If posters on demonland believe that Oscar has the potential to be one of the best Full Backs in the game, then Lever is going to go down as the greatest defender to have ever played the game and will be made immortal. Lever is the best young defender in the league without question and to suggest he only shows potential is [censored] crazy.

I don't interpret it that way. Meeting with an opposing club's officials and players as leverage to get a better deal with your current club seems a bit extreme. You can do that by simply holding off signing until you're satisfied with an offer from your current club. Clearly he is considering a move if what's reported is true. And if it happens, i'll be in heaven.

^ How do we know Mummy is definitely out?

Don't be mean, Stevie

Looking forward to the typical 'response' win against this mob only to be followed by a loss to Brisbane at the G two weeks later. Woooohoooo to be a Melbourne supporter.

It's not Sat-man, look at the positives in life. Relax. As for your footy IQ comment, I agree that you'd expect those youngsters to improve in that regard. But by how much? Not all players are blessed with that attribute as a natural ability so I think it's foolish to expect that they'll reach any great heights in that aspect of the game. Generally, high footy IQ is something players possess before they come into the system. Yeh you'd expect Frost, Oscar and Jayden to make less errors during games the more experience they gain. But they'll never be high IQ footballers.

"I had a shoulder reconstruction over the pre-season and came back a little bit heavy, so Simon Goodwin sat me down and said, ‘you want to put a jumper on for this club then get down to the weight you need to be at.’ He told me that the way I was at the time wasn’t going to help the team and that I was probably being a bad teammate. The role that they needed me to play required me to be lighter and agile and so the challenge was set." Unless there was an obvious miscommunication along the way, it seems to me that Pedo didn't really understand what 'giving everything of yourself' looked like. Until Goodwin literally had to spell it out to him. He didn't assume anything. He just didn't work hard enough and wasn't disciplined enough with his diet. Which still baffles me for a player of his age playing in the AFL on a one-year contract. It's something that a few of us had already observed and had asked of. And finally it happened. Yes I want the bonus points. All of them. Also, losing 10kg in five weeks seems a drastic response to "coming back a little bit heavy". No? Interesting choice of words he used there. Maybe he meant, "I came back way too heavy".

^ you mustn't have opened the link I copied to read the words Cam himself had written about the shape he came back in post surgery.

Hey @Satyriconhome. Remember that time you said that players knew exactly what weight they needed to be after a few of us thought that Cam Pederson was carrying too much pudge? http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/players-voice-cam-pedersen/ Let me know your thoughts ^ I dare say Dean Kent needs to take a leaf out of Pedo's book if he wants to stay on the list beyond next year. What do you reckon?

A perfect example of our lack of footy IQ in our defence is clearly seen within the last 40 seconds of the match. Hunt goes in one-hundred miles an hour for a ground ball in the middle only to be beaten to it by Gibson. Hunt both misses the ball and then more importantly the tackle. Low footy IQ move at that time of the game. Then have a look at the next play and where the ball ends up. We have Oscar zoning what? Absolutely nothing. He has zero awareness that Cunnington has crept forward and ends up taking an uncontested mark. The entire idea of zoning is to eat-up the space so that uncontested marking options aren't so easily identifiable. Oscar is standing way too close to Jetta when this play unfolds and is just generally clueless about how much space he has left on his right side. Jetta, Salem and Hibberd are our only high IQ defenders. Hunt has some great attributes but isn't a composed footballer. Oscar and Frost do things that are unfathomable. Therein lies the problem. Solid defence and zonal pressure comes from high IQ footballers.