Bearthor

More power needs to be given to clubs around player movements. Given the recent trade deals for arguably lesser players at the same point in their respective careers (Jeremy Cameron), if we were to take anything less than let’s say WC #2 & 2023 1st Rd for LJ & 2023 2nd Rd we would be getting unders. Only three years in the system, this kid hasn’t even scratched the surface of his talent! Trading for only around/ less than what we gave to get him in the first place is a terrible outcome given the failure rates of draftees. It disappointing that the league took Mac Andrew from us last year with a strategically placed rule change, now we are perilously close to being shafted a second time within 12months!

thoughts? 1/ J.Toumpas & Melbourne's 2016 2nd Rounder for Port Adelaide's 2016 1st Rounder 2/ J.Howe & Port Adelaide's 2016 1st Rounder for Collingwood's #7 of the above scenario the Port Adelaide side would be the hardest sell

we will finish with 5 or 6 wins which will leave us 2nd or 3rd off the bottom i think we will be above the lions on For and Against and the the Blue's to get the spoon

We can't move that many forwards on, the weekend showed we are lacking in that area. As much as Dawes isn't the end game for the Dees until Hogan has at least 50-75 games under his belt we need the mature body up front. In saying that Howe and Toumpas could offer value on the trade table

Do we want two full forwards? we need a CHF like a Gunston, somone who gets on their bike and has awareness not a Kosi and Riewoldt scenario where they run into each other every second week. For mine if our pick is outside the top 2 take Weideman who will probably be around the pick 9 mark so maybe offload the early 1st rounder for both a mid and a late 1st round pick

assuming the ladder stays where it is, we have pick 4. trade ND4 to a middle of the table team ie. Geelong for both ND9 and ND27 trade ND22 (845 points) and ND27 (703 points) to GWS for tomlinson and ND28 use ND9 on a Ah Chee or Curnow / etc GWS get to use the extra points to offset selecting both Hopper and Kennedy (presumed early picks of ND5 (1751 points) and ND9 (1469 points) respectively) totalling 3220 points ND10 = 1375 ND22 = 845 ND27 = 703 ND46 = 331 total points = 3254

I think Petracca will go #1 and the Saints will take Reece McKenzie #21. I'm not sold on McCartin I don't think he'll be the player they say he'll be, would like the Dees to look at other options

4) Petracca and Leverde