DistrACTION Jackson

8 minutes ago, sue said:

I agree. However your last sentence doesn't add weight to that position. When do you ever hear Goodwin or anyone else complain publically liek soem clubs do?   (I just hope they do it behind closed doors when appropriate.)

I think we definitely do.... which is probably why we finally get a home game v Geelong at the G and no travel down to Kardinia! Think they've requested this for 20 years straight....

8 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

I remember listening to this on the radio as the game wasn't televised in Perth!

Different time back then when you couldn't watch every game!

42 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

If Jack Viney still ill today, is the Kolt a sneaky chance..? 
Hubris and in fear of offending the footy gods, Demons to get it done, 10 goal win, and never in doubt. 
❤️🙏💙

Not an emergency so I would say no

I love Judd McVee and I think they will work with him on improving his defensive game, which is already pretty strong for a 20 year old!

Going to be a great long term player for us.

2 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

I think we have a beauty here. great game sense, not overawed, has genuine wheels and knows how to use it (e.g his goal from 50). and probs just as important looks a great decision maker. I thought his coolness under pressure which the commentators pointed out in the last quarter makes him special. Didn't blaze away and made good decisions under enormous pressure. He looks a beauty. 

The nomination will come. don't worry. 

Made the right decision and executed late with his kick to Fritsch also.

Love him. Can't wait to see once he adds some muscle to his frame.

2 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

I see more Connor Rozee in Windsor than Lachie Whitfield. He is better inside that we expected and a good but not perfect kick. He has excellent hands and great decision making. He definitely looks an inside midfielder with more muscle.

Hopefully without the flopping like Rozee?

On 30/03/2024 at 08:12, layzie said:

Yeah I'm not reaching for the pom poms on this one straight away, the kid has obvious talent and I'll be backing him to find his niche and come through but this is year 4 now. When I see players like Jefferson in year 2 who take longer to develop getting torched in the VFL thread, then I think it's hypocritical to give Laurie a bruise free ride.

I know it's a slightly sceptical view and not as simple as "Yay Laurie go prove those awful naysayers wrong" but that's how I feel.

Some of the comments in that thread are embarrassing. Shock, young players developing at Casey can be inconsistent....

1 minute ago, Roost it far said:

As Petty is contracted in 25 they’ll need a top 10 and a top 20 pick to satisfy us. Either that or a top liner from their list who wants back to Vic. Any less would be unders. 

Exactly. Once he is OOC this changes, but for the end of this year we can just say no deal and he comes back for another season. These articles saying 'Crows think they can get him' are all just for clickbait, fact is we don't have to trade.

7 minutes ago, Sydee said:

I’m not whinging just stating the obvious - the deal we got for LJ was not “the best value ever” - simple 

was it all that was on the table - maybe - but best value ever is laughable - in value terms we are miles behind on that trade atm 

Well yeah but you very rarely get what a player is worth once they are out of contract and want to leave, given the players can choose where they want to go.

We are very lucky Freo tanked last year and we got Windsor!

16 minutes ago, Sydee said:

lol we would be clear premiership favourites with LJ in the team atm - as a forward he would be very very handy and as a ruck he would be very very handy 

We are one Max Gawn injury away from being in deep p00p 

He wanted to leave though and was out of contract so we did the best we could.

No point whinging about a player who didn't want to be here, when the majority do.

Agreed about Gawn injury, but most teams are the same (dockers probably the only ones who can cover their number one ruck).

If English goes down Dogs have to ruck either Darcy or Lobb full time. If Marshall goes down the Saints have Tom Campbell. If Soldo goes down the Power have Jordon Sweet and so on and so on. There aren't many good ruckman around and there are hardly any AFL standard rucks in the VFL.

3 minutes ago, Kent said:

Yes why don't they bid for the next commonwealth games for a start!

Lol I would never be bidding for that.... maybe the olympics but sounds like our pollies can't work together to organise anything

2 minutes ago, Deeko2 said:

I'm assuming that other than when we have the oval/s booked for training, they would be for full community use would they not?  That's a wonderful win for the community.

In Mildura where I'm living, we recently completed an absolutely amazing new $40m sporting precinct with 3 ovals, 6 new basketball courts in a first class stadium, huge function rooms and all the extra bells and whistles needed to ensure its compliant (change rooms, appropriate access).

The majority of the funding was state and federal with the local council having to put some up obviously and oh lord..... the carry on from some locals and as someone above beautifully quoted "lightweight pollies" was genuinely cringeworthy.

Anyways, a couple years on, we have it, the stadium is jampacked 24/7 and the ovals get a lot more use than expected with personal trainers filling them in the mornings, then dog walkers and mothers groups during the day.

The local footy club only has them for a few hours every Tues-Thurs night and obviously Saturdays and it works perfectly.

Far more use then vacant land.  As I'm sure the new development would be over the wasted space in the centre of the track now.

It feels as though some people just want to be outraged no matter what is happening.

It's like the Tasmanian stadium talk, they need to view this as an investment into the future of the state with potential sporting events and concerts to be held. Instead there are pollie's using the current economic issues to try stop progression, while fixing both is not necessarily unachievable.

I assume no news is good news for Clarry..... 😐

Sounds like the FD really rate Bailey and want to see him continue to grow and improve.

I'm happy with this as it ensures we have decent depth on the list and it also give Bailey the opportunity to just focus on footy without the worry about coming out of contract. Lets also not forget that he would be on a relatively low wage for an AFL player so wouldn't be taking much out of our salary cap.

Our recruitment team has been one of the best performed for 10 years now, so anyone trying to call out our misses is taking the p i $ $

Apparently Horne-Francis will miss again.

13 minutes ago, binman said:

Mmm, Gawn and may will be hard to cover, as i'm not convinced we have cover for tmem in term sof young players. 

But we both may and maxy are on big coin, so we will have some capital to to say target Darcy at Freo down the track (i cant see the Jackson Darcy combo working out long term).

And perhaps go after a Taylor or another other quality key defender.

Exactly. I think we will go free agency/trades to cover those guys, but I also won't write off Adams/Verrall just yet. We've seen Howes come in this year after a couple of years at Casey so sometimes it can click. Plus big guys take a bit longer.

I'm more saying I don't think we should start panicking about those two finishing up just yet.

27 minutes ago, binman said:

Exactly.

And IMHO, McVee, Rivers, Howes and Bowey area all future A graders. 

For me this is another key thing thing the media is completely missing about the dees - how  much scope for improvement we have because we have so many quality young players in our starting 23 that will develop into serious AFL footballers. 

On Saturday we had four players under the age of 21 - JVR, Windsor,  McVee and Howes. And Koz and Rivers are both still only 22.  Bowey will come back in when fit and he is only 21.

All seven players are in our best 23, meaning almost a third of our best team are 22 or under. That's crazy given we won a flag in 2021 and were top 4 in 2022 and 2023.

And Sparrow is only 23 and Chandler turned 24 in January (meaning nine of our best 23 are under 24 or under).

So much upside.  Upside that not other serious top 4 contender, with the possible exception of the Giants, can match. 

Compare and contrast to the Pies for instance. 

100% agree. Which is why I'm not as concerned about the Gawn/May retirements.

The real end of the 'era' will be Trac, Viney, Salem, Oliver, Fritsch, Lever, Langdon, ANB, Billings etc. 

3 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Probably not a direct run withtag, but could go with team match up whereby, Sparrow runs with him around the ground in general play and responsibility goes to possibly Viney at the CBDs and around the ground stoppages.

 

I think we also need to get physical with him, not illegally but when the chance is there put a heavy tackle on.

Butters is only slight, though he is super quick. 

5 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

hmm, i wouldn't call them elite - i'd call them neat

they all don't bite off more than they can chew and make 'sensible' decisions rather than 'risky' ones

perhaps with greater experience will come greater desire to take the game on, in the mould of blakey from the swans, williams or saad from carlton, and naicos or crisp from the filth

That is a fair assessment, but let's not forget they are 22, 20, 21 & 20.......

@binman loved the analysis of the stats guy (think is name is Daniel Hoyne?) speaking with Gerard Healy about our new plan to score more from the back half. I think the one thing that the media are sleeping on is just how good our half backs actually are. McVee, Rivers, Howes and Bowey are all elite kicks and are going to be so dangerous. I actually believe that is the best group of half back users in the competition

On 23/03/2024 at 20:52, Binmans PA said:

 

Sicily's game of 13 marks (all unconstested) with 20 kicks sideways or backwards, was one of the most ineffectual games I can recall and yet despite having less possessions and nowhere near the influence on the game as Petracca (who had 11 score involvements), Silicy had an AFL Fantasy score of 116 to Trac's 109. AFL Fantasy is broken whatever the hell that is.

 

AFL fantasy is purely based off stats. i.e 3 points for a kick, 3 for a mark, 2 for a handball etc.

Supercoach is the one that adds additional scoring for effective disposal, score assists etc.

Petracca has a SC score of 146 compared to Sicily 123, which shows he was more effective in the game.

8 minutes ago, Its Time for Another said:

Last year's Gather Round was a disaster. Flew back from Perth and then to Adelaide and proceeded to lose to Essendon 🤮 Clearly applying the learnings from that debacle. 

I reckon they are really setting themselves for these 2 games and will be looking at it as a positive i.e. rather than making two trips to Adelaide throughout the year we knock them both off.

Both are going to be tough games, but I'll back the boys in and think they will steal themselves to try go 2-0 in Adelaide.

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

My biggest concern about this team selection is Hawthorn's forward line. It's very small and with May, Lever, McDonald and to a lesser extent Hore and Howes, we seem to be going in too tall. Adding Petty in place of Woewodin limits our ability to add a pacy, small defender should it be needed.

I should add that I'm not questioning Petty's selection from a form or fitness point of view. It's purely a question of team structure. 

It will all be about the midfield. If we pressure them up the field and they have to bomb it in these guys will have an absolute field day marking everything.

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

We're now undefeated against Hawthorn over the last 6 years (7 wins and 1 draw in that period).

If you could go back in time to 2016 and tell a Melbourne fan that we were going to be unbeaten against Hawthorn for 6 years you would have been ridiculed. We lost 13 straight games across 10 years at one point there, and ended up losing 15 out of 16 games across 12 years.

Let's keep this going as long as possible!

5 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

We're onto a winner. I thought we reached for type when we drafted him, but already I know I was wrong and he's going to be special. JT is a genius.

We drafted him due to his pace and ability to link up and hit targets going inside 50. He's shown that already. Love the bit of play on the weekend where he marked at HBF, field was stagnant ahead of him, he short passed to teammates towards corridor then ran on for handball receive bursting forward and kicking forward. Gained us about 80 metres out of a stagnant field and gave us the exact type of drive we lack from the back half.

He's also already showed glimpse that he's got elite potential on the inside. His ability to shrug and turn through tackles is great, and he's got quick strong hands. If he can add more strength to his upper body, he could become the most rounded midfielder we've got. 

I'll get blasted for this, but most clear comparison player for me is Chris Judd as a youngster when he was more outside and pacy before his OP took away his burst and he moved more inside.

I 100% agree on the Chris Judd comparison, he's just a bit lighter than Judd when he first started.

I was also one who was worried when we drafted an 'outside' runner with the pick and remember thinking his stats at junior level were pretty pedestrian, but I can now see he is so much more than that. I already love the guy and just can't wait watching him develop into an absolute gun midfielder.

He is a great winger already, but I can see him developing to also play through the centre square once he adds 5-10 kgs.