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Ha Ha. WE have a Swiss White Shepherd: beautiful dogs.

I doubt it: I live around the corner and have not seen any dogs during matches. Then again, I could be wrong...

Injured/ idle: Hogan. Frawley. Tyson. Preuss. Howe. Can't get a game: Kent. Functional: Frost. Having said that, I wish them all the best.

I knew I'd forgotten someone!

Great game. Gone since then: Vince Tyson Watts Bugg Oscar Mac Frost Pedersen Stretch Garlett

6:Salem 5: Viney 4: Lever 3: Hunt 2: Oliver 1: Petracca. Unlucky: Gawn, Pickett, Landon, Fritsch,Oliver.

The 'Sack Goodwin' contingent has lost its voice. Thank de Lord!

At first glance it looked accidental: after watching it a few times, Hawkins threw his arm back at May; that's no accident. And, Hawkins has form....

I'll be succinct. When I was first introduced to the ways of the Catholic Church, in North Sunshine after we arrived as migrants, I listened to the nuns and priests talk about heaven and hell. Implied was that only nuns and priests and their ilk would get through the pearly gates: that was after strapping me, inflicting finger-nailed twists on my cheeks, in other words, behaving like depraved child molesters, I determined that if these f...kers went to heaven, I'd rather take the lift Going Down. I imagine you will be on the lift going upstairs: another reason I don't wanna be there.

The scenario you mention would be a nightmare, I agree. In fact, I know of a case in South Australia where a daughter lied about her father. We do need a way to get beyond this impasse. My best friend at school was assaulted by a Brother in 1966. I was the first person he talked to about it exactly fifty years later. And it is a fact that only 14% of sexual assault cases get to court because the victims are too afraid or too horrified by the process to proceed. The fact that in the Canberra Political Bubble, a member of the Government's staff was raped in a Parliamentary Office and the victim only came out about it three years later, mainly because of the Australia Day Speech by another woman who had been raped, ought to suggest to you that things are crook in Tallarook.

Scomo, Christian and Co are hiding behind that same smoke screen, Mister Better Days. The bottom line - if you'd care to confront some of the issues brought about by the women in Canberra recently - is that the law is still stuck in the he said she said quagmire, and it's the reason only 14% of such cases ever proceed beyond a formal complaint.

You are trying to turn this into an issue of semantics using every slight of hand known by the Jesuits and the so-called legal 'Profession'. The bottom line, Crank, is you seem stuck on defending the status quo, a status quo which allowed the likes of Risdale and the men who brutalised the likes of Rod Owen to keep on getting away with it, while you and your like wear powdered wigs and call each other Your Honour while little boys and girls get raped. In the meantime, if the boys and girls who have survived their ordeals come out and seek justice, your like want to do epistemology, your version of logic and try to get the victim to produce the 'evidence'. You are very blinded by the trees, mister.

The issue about 'the cameramen' is that, like I say, the complaints about Pell go back to the 60's when he was a mere apprentice priest. They include a life guard at Torquay where Pell went for Christmas holidays, who walked into the changing rooms and saw Pell prancing around boys in his naked splendour. The lifeguard ordered Pell to get dressed and [censored] off. The bottom line is that unless there was/is a conspiracy by a consort of people who had an issue with Pell, the number of times he has been identified as an offender goes beyond mere coincidence. There is also the baffling case of his defence of priests who were repeat offenders. What does that tell you about a man who always walked tall beside Risdale, one of the worst pedophiles in history?

Yep: like the camera men at the Whitehouse who watched Clinton and Lewinsky. I don't think you get it. DC: the Pells of the world don't rape in front of cameras. FYI there is a list of complaints about Pell's behaviour which goes back to the 1960's. Obviously all this is a Leftie, David Marr, and ABC-inspired plot to de-frock the man Greg Sheridan wanted to be the next Pope after the German Pope said Let me outta here. And you can't keep hiding behind the specious defence that there were no witnesses. There very, very rarely are because people who rape kids and women always take this legal loophole into account.

'He beat the System and he must be so proud of that fact' . The trouble is, Pell WAS the System in the Catholic Church and since his reign of Terror, it has been proven that the Courts and the so-called Justice System were in total cohorts with Pell and his rapists clan. The trouble is that it wasn't only Pell, and the Salesians, the Christian Brothers and the Marists etc, you had the same level of abuse in the Salvation Army and the other so-called Christian Churches as well. Other religious institutions were also involved.Funny how rape and religion go hand in hand in our 'Civilised' world. For the record, my best friend at school - we're talking from 1964 to 1966 - was also molested at the Catholic school we attended. He kept it to himself until 2016. Not even his wife knew... The brother who molested him was accused by two other boys and it went to court in 2015. The verdict boiled down to the Pell defence, namely that the Brother maintained his innocence and it was therefore the allegations of two boys versus his defence. AS I have written numerous times in the course of Rod Owen's tragedy, it is always the raped who has to prove his or her innocence. In this regard, our legal system is a lynch mob, in that it lynches the victims.

' Justice Weinberg in the Court of Appeal and 7 High Court judges all said the verdict was wrong.' As they always say when it falls into their 'Learned' laps. Your statement 'Well, our legal system is better than a lynch mob,' just about sums up your position, Crank. And you love adding ammunition to your detractors by ' or a Countrytown Cameraman's Court.' Well, your Honour, if it pleases the court, these are just Countrytown Cameramen: they know nothing about the finer points of the law.

Um, you don't get a lot of things, Crank, because you have a very closed mind. Not only that, by quoting Eastman and CHamberlain, you are actually proving my point that the Justice System we are yoked to, is flawed. Why should it take repeated trials to 'get it right'? And last but not least, the catalogue of complaints about Pell is as long as the conga line of suckholes like you who point out that Pell is innocent because a couple of High Court judges said so. You live in a Fantasyland which automatically classifies the victims of evil maggots like Pell as liars. Men like you are part of the problem. No wonder victims of rape don't bother reporting anything.

The bottom line is that the so-called Law regarding Rape is stacked in favour of the rapist. What has also magnified the damage is the guilt and shame the victims feel, their powerlessness, the fact that in Pell's Ballarat time, abuse victims were also victimised by the authorities they reported to, parents in some cases the victimisers. Pell basically got off because one of his victims had suicided and it boiled down to Pell's word against the remaining victim's. You may recall that in the early 2000's a retired judge heard a similar complaint about Pell and ended up coming down in Pell's favour, though he found Pell's victim a credible witness. And, for what it's worth, I know people in the medical profession who know some of the policemen involved in the investigation. They don't divulge much but they have certified that the legal case was not 'bad' in any sense: Pell could simply hire better lawyers. And, as they say in the classics, this is where our Legal System fails and why most people who are the victims of sexual crimes don't report.

Yep, indeed. THat's where true Demons lurk.

Nah. Just had the funds available to hire the most notorious practitioners of the art of sophistry in Australia. The law as practiced in our English speaking 'civilisations' is ruled by the rich. And the so-called Law when it comes to sexual assault means in essence that the victim has to prove he or she is not guilty.

The whole system - as has been highlighted by the drama in Canberra - is corrupt and stacked in favour of the perpetrators of these horrific crimes. Not much has changed: Pell was able to buy his freedom, for example.

6; Gawn 5: Langdon 4: Hunt 3: Pickett 2: Viney 1: Neale Bullen

I love that we're winning. Let's keep some perspective though: look at the ladder and see where the three teams we have beaten are. This isn't meant to be a 'downer' post, just a plea to stay calm and take each game as it comes. History is also full of March to July champions who fall apart when it counts. Because of the expectation that Brown and Weidemann are on the way, I remain cautiously optimistic. The guts of a good side is certainly there.

I got two weeks for a similar post: please withdraw!?