The Stigga

it's equal with He-man.

Yes

Went through the draw again and noticed we only have 5 Sunday games (not including the Round 23 lottery) Surely this has to be the least amount of games on this day we have had in years? I for one cannot stand Sunday games so this is a good development. Paging @Supermercado...

23, 28 and 54 for GC Pick 6? Pretty much equal on points... 1751 for them 1712 for us

How long left.

Adelaide? Just can't see it happening. Should beat Gold Coast. Sydney play the MCG well, don't think so. West Coast away? No chance. GWS most in form side? Won't win. If we'd won the Geelong games and the St. Kilda game we'd currently be in second place.

The St. Kilda game...just mind boggling...

I don't think that will happen. For what its worth, I think several key players are playing hurt, I've watched Neville Jetta quite closely this year, he's never played better, but i can remember 5 or 6 times vividly this year of him getting absolutely smashed and taking a minute or two to collect himself, he must be hurting... Coupled with our upcoming draw, Geelong and Adelaide away in successive weeks, playing in Darwin prior to that and Footscray in between, all in the space of 20 days...pretty brutal if you ask me... Edit* in saying that if we make finals from here it will be a bloody good effort.

True, still I think if the arrangment is going to continue we should play the Darwin game instead of the Alice Springs game before the bye.

I don't disagree.

I'm not sure the decision is 'fully' ours, i think we are partially beholden to the AFL to continue this arrangement in some form, perhaps due to previous 'support' we received.

Even if we'd beaten St Kilda and say Geelong, I still think we'd struggle to make the 8, the last 5-6 weeks is just a brutal run of games, coupled with teams around us having much easier draws...

Agreed, since the Hawthorn game (except for the Adelaide game) our first quarters have been deeplorable.

I must say looking at the draw a month later it's quite a difficult one. I only count 4 gimmes, Carlton, Freo at home and the GC games. Maybe the 5th would be North, but that's perennially been a bogey game. I don't have Supreme confidence about anything else. Tough start to with Geelong . Lose that badly then not hugely confident about Brisbane away the next week in the heat.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Watts trade cost the club 3000-4000 memberships. What would that translate to in $$$?

Who's to say we wont have a first round this year and next year?

No way they would take that

Was he injured this year?

Kent?

I'm actually staggered they gave us something back for this year and next year.

You put a lot of value on such a massive unknown.

We were all happy to give 10 and 27 this year. So what the hell is the difference between 10 and say 15 next year? Nothing. People massively overrate draft picks.