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12 minutes ago, Anti-Saint said:

harley needs game time u cant drop him goodloss

Absolutely. His composure and ability to ‘make time’ is a weapon. Yeah he didn’t have many touches, but when he did, they were mostly creative. Lockhart has played 3 games and barely touched the ball. If Goodwin drops him, the knives should be pointed back in his direction.

1 hour ago, Cassiew said:

Uh just woke up with slight hangover to “Aunt Cassie, you’re still here! Let’s play!”

This is why we usually have game nights at my place 

#advantagesofbeingchildless

I hope Aunt Cassie isn’t living in Melbourne having ‘game nights’ during lockdown? 

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

Was very little in it but Clarry swung an arm at him, that's always going to be a free. 

The biggest armchair ride Rankine got was Max tapping it right to him. Our mids were in awful position at that stoppage and Jetta just couldn't go with the kid.

Thankfully he can't kick a set shot.

For ‘throwing an arm’ that didn’t connect after Clarry was roughed up by the kid once the ball had crossed the line? Really? You are joking. Go back and watch it. Complete and utter joke

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Langdon stood flat footed and let Rankine shark the tap

Hibberd was on him when he did the soccer goal

Rankine side stepped Harmes for his first goal

Nev made one error on Rankine

Please watch the game before writing off Nev

 

The only disappointment for me tonight was Garry Lyon commentating like he wanted the Dees to lose

Garry and Jono Brown are complete tossers. It was painful to have to put up with them. Make a big deal about every Melbourne mistake and have a circle jerk with Huddo over Rankine, while completely making a non-issue of the fact he got two of the biggest bullsh&t free kicks of the night. 
 

Gary is the opposite of Eddie McGuire and his Collingwood bias. he actively bags Melbourne at every opportunity and barracks for the opposition to hide his bias. He shouldn’t call Melbourne games. How was Browny at the end, wanting to focus on the fact tht Rankine will pull them through the gates and completely disrespecting our win. Both can bugger off.

17 minutes ago, Ham said:

Right............

You disagree ?

On 6/30/2020 at 2:00 PM, MyFavouriteMartian said:

In one contest Oli and Viney rushing for the loose ball,  Oli called Viney out to receive, Oli grabbed ball, flicked to Viney, who kicked the ball. Oli could have been the reciever and the all user.

He chose to take the easy stat.! 

He let Viney take the responsibility of hitting a target.

 

I think this encapsulates Oi's mindset.   Get lots of stats and everyone's cool.

 

i want to see Oli become a Lot more 'creative', with the ball use.   He's gotten lazy,  just sticking to his easy bread and butter.

Totally agree. He was waxing handballs all night with Viney and both were flat footed and put the other under pressure. I liked Harmes in the middle. He makes things happen and is clean below his knees.

If this club has any balls, we need to ask the AFL for a few please explains about tonight’s umpiring. Always looks better when you question calls after a win, as it’s not sour grapes. Rankine one against Oliver was non-existent. There was nothing that constituted a free kick and the kid has a real smugness about him. A talent no doubt, but he is going to be lined up in the weeks to come. 

42 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Moment in the first quarter where I seriously considered turning the sound off: TMac is on haunches on the turf with his eyeball on the ground in front of him. Jonathan Brown, while watching the slo-mo: bit of a delayed reaction there. 

One day they’ll raise the standards in the commentary box beyond intellectually deficient oafs who were good at footy when they were young, but it clearly hasn’t happened yet.

Jono Brown absolutely hates Melbourne. I can’t stand when he commentates our games. He continually barracks for the opposition and is so biased it’s borderline repulsive. McDonald almost had his eyeball ripped out and he was ready to play the “Melbourne are soft..” while he Huddo and Gaz had a circle jerk about Rankine, he got the softest of frees and Ellis another a moment before when he dove. All it drew from the commentators was a groan. He is a tool and knows stuff all about the current game. He should stick to trying to be funny on breakfast FM radio, which is mostly cringeworthy stuff as well.

Tracca needs to smarten up and cut the Hollywood football. Do the basics right son 

2 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

A bit harsh to say he provides little pressure. Clearly our best pressure forward and should have had a free kick inside 50 that quarter for his tackles. Has faded off after a solid round 1 performance and getting multiple scoring opportunities in the pre season. Might need a week or two off

It’s the jogging when we have them hemmed in tht [censored] me

Kozzy...anyone think he has done anything to deserve a game this season? Been selected on potential and is providing little to no pressure around the forward line

16 hours ago, DurriePirate said:

They may have reduced the "bees to a honey pot" by still happens at crucial moments.

What kills me is watching the forward 50 get absolutely swamped by our player instead if keep that arc of 4-6 player across the centre just 60-70m out. Stopping the exit and creating space for the forwards.

Agree re the f50 being swamped, which is more relevant than the bees to the honeypot midfield issues of seasons past. They are not one of the same. Jennings most me on that point 

Listened to this analysis for the first time tonight. He seems fairly bitter and there is evidence that he has bad blood with Goody. 
 

while I agree with the disconnect argument and that each line is out of sink, he made a few observations that seemed more relevant to last season that this year. The ‘bees to a honeypot’ problem has not been an issue this year for mine. We have stopped committing too many at the ball in the midfield. I think he was way off with that point. 
 

we have found ourselves out in plenty of space, with run, but continually choose the wrong option and/or poorly execute the final kick inside 50. 

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

Anyone that thinks Tomlinson is stiff, just rewatch last weeks game. One poor game can be excused for sure but not putting your body on the line for the team, you are cut. 
well done Goodwin 

Agree with this in a big way. Watched the game on replay today on FOX and there was a contest inside 50, after he had been swung forward, and he pulled out of the contest and didn’t make body contact. It was pathetic. For a bloke his size, he does not use his strength and crack in. Looks like Tarzan plays like...

Agree with a lot of the changes, but reckon Rivers is far better than Lockhart and I would have liked to see Hunt used elsewhere. He has been good this year with the limited supply. Hardly think he has been part of the problem this season. Also, Melksham and AVB are very lucky to hold spots. Acid test this week for the FD and Goody

The Choofta will be in the side this week. Article praising his 3 goal game. 
 

bennell with 35 can no longer be ignored either. 

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

There is only 2 past people id happily have at the back and that's Adam Yze and Brad Miller.

Brad Miller...why? 

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Lyon, Connelly, Stynes, Healey, Schwab, Viney.

All at one stage were working within the club. We won't need to be reminded what that lead too.

None of our former greats have never tasted success. Why bring in former players that have been part of the problem all these years.

Never did I see Hawthorn or Brisbane in their golden era made up of people from within their club. They went out and recruited the best people they thought could influence the standards and culture of their club.

Just go out and recruit the best person that fits the bill. Paul Roos and Peter Jackson were exactly that.

Hawthorn had both Derm and Dunstall involved when Clarkson was appointed. I think you’ve missed my point completely. I never said we had to stack the place full of ex players. Kennett is also a massive Hawthorn man and  a big voice. 

34 minutes ago, Deesprate said:

Culture you hit the nail on the head. It bigger than individual games; players; coaches and employees. A broken culture will never deliver results. Bartlett got praised for his interview. To me his blind faith in our set ups is delusional. He is the master of corporate speak and flashy undeliverable strategic plans. When we don’t make finals this year who going to own that part of failure. He thinks the more you say excellence the more it is actually achieved. How about instead of saying finals we have a focus on delivering the best culture. Where are the independent culture surveys from the boot studder to the president to tell us where we are at and measure how we are going. The Dees are the masters of spin flashy logos; strategic plans; video. If they were handing out premierships for BS we would be Hawthorn.

I’ve always thought a lack of ‘Melbourne people’ within our club has lead to a culture of mediocrity. We have very few past players come back and be involved with the club. Robbo is about the only one. Bartlett claims to have supported melbourne, but seems to have been a West Coast man who turned to the Dees when he saw a business opportunity. Pert is not a Melbourne person. He is an AFL puppet with connections to other clubs. I reckon Goodwin in the same boat.

i am not saying that we need a club full of ex-players, but I don’t know tht those we bring into our club build a culture and understand our club. They never seems to connect with the fans and it all seems plastic. I reckon that rubs off on the players and it is why you see a lack of pride in the jumper, as outlined by several outsiders.

there has been a disconnect since Danners left. 

10 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

How the [censored] is Weideman supposed to develop when we don't even have a dedicated coach to teach him forward craft. Who is he meant to be learning from, TMac? Amateur hour! If you want a return you can't cheap out on the investment.

It feels like there is so much wrong at the moment, it is totally disheartening. Every thread I read on here I think of another 5 things that aren't being addressed or have been done wrong. You could write a thesis on this club.

Spot on. No one teaching forward craft. Look at St Kilda and King. He has benefited from Roughhead showing him the way. Their whole forward line has. We have Greg Stafford doing that role don’t we ? 

Those that describe the Ox as a simpleton know little. He has great footy IQ and would be a good forward coach. Better than anyone we get doing it at the moment. 

2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

We should have made the Grand Final that year, but the fixture screwed us by making us play North, while the Crows got the easier game (I think against the Swans) even though we rolled them in the first week of the finals.

I wouldn’t add to the years of disappointment. Plenty more to pick from

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

1998 deserves a mention...

I mean we do have so many to choose from

2001 ( A Space Odyssey) We didn't even make the Finals....

 

That was a real killer for me...

What was wrong with ‘98, we went from last to prelim final? Are you confused?

3 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

suited our list in 2018. I would then ask what is the style to suit our list? its certainly not slow and steady as we don't have the foot skills.

 

 

It’s being able to do both and change tempo when needed. The point is the manic game style causes panic amongst our players and accentuates their poor skills. The fact that they have no one genuinely leading at the ball is also problematic. There is too much to fix right now. This is one of many problems 

Harmes needs to play 70% midfield time at a minimum. Has more pace and football smarts than Oliver and Viney. He was a big reason we had a good 2018. The dumb FD decision to try him as a back man has been a bust, much like the Fritta down back call in 2019. Salem needs to be brought up the ground as he is usually a good user, although some may question that based on recent form. 
 

We must play a second tall in the forward line, just for those occasions when Oliver and Viney win ball in the middle and blast inside 50. At a minimum, this gives us a chance to compete. At the moment we have all the mid sized forwards flying for the aerial ball and therefore no one on the deck to rove. 
 

It’s all kind of redundant though, as the team clearly is lacking spirit and have been confused by Goodwin’s game plan. I agree with Gary Lyon, when he says that the manic game style is not suited to our playing list. That is pretty obvious. We aren’t able to go slow