Just wondering what everyone thinks about the dees when we will win our next flag and what we need to do to get it.

We have a new coach is this going to be the one to develope our players we will have to wate and see.

Should we bottom out like the tanks because at the moment they look like they might win a flag before us.

Mate that's the big question isn't it.

Its hard to judge things like this. It's been 44 years now and whilst the past 10 or so years we've been competitive we've never really looked like were in with a real shot. Sadly with our recent form I think it is inevitible that we will finish near the bottom even if we do play all our older guys. I suppose the good thing is that we have a head start if we choose to rebuild as all our youngsters seem to be pretty handy

This time last year a number of media people had us in their top 4 - this year they'll ll have us in the bottom 2 or 3.

No practice wins - who can blame them. Apart from the Geelong game I haven't seen them this year. I think Melbourne are a 6 to 12 side depending on injuries.

My biggest hope is that the demons get some late 80's mongrel back into them, not punches or that but good hard solid crunching tackling - win or lose I'd like opposition sides to say that they copped a few bruises and were tackled hard in a Melbourne game and they were sore - that's my first step to getting a Melbourne side back as a force. There were too many "soft arm tackles" as Gerard Healy called them. A hard tackling side creates pressue - have a look at what ST Kilda did to Adelaide on Saturday night.

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This time last year a number of media people had us in their top 4 - this year they'll ll have us in the bottom 2 or 3.

No practice wins - who can blame them. Apart from the Geelong game I haven't seen them this year. I think Melbourne are a 6 to 12 side depending on injuries.

My biggest hope is that the demons get some late 80's mongrel back into them, not punches or that but good hard solid crunching tackling - win or lose I'd like opposition sides to say that they copped a few bruises and were tackled hard in a Melbourne game and they were sore - that's my first step to getting a Melbourne side back as a force. There were too many "soft arm tackles" as Gerard Healy called them. A hard tackling side creates pressue - have a look at what ST Kilda did to Adelaide on Saturday night.

To be fair mate Moloney and sylvia were smashing blokes into the turf all day on Saturday. Obviously didn't make much difference though.

To the original question I would say not to worry about possibly being out of town in September for at least a few years.