just about the point of tanking, i tihnk demetriou made a good point...

y would any team intentionally lose. i mean they might get an extra draft pick, but at the end of the day, the players are playing for their jobs, their livelihood. as we'v seen this season, the coaches are also playing for their jobs and they simply cant afford to consistently lose. note how that worked for pagan...

it just doesnt make sense that players and coaches would sacrifise their livelihoods so that maybe they get an extra kid in the draft next year...

Also, it also does nothing for the culture of the club. creating a losing culture means that no matter what kind of list you put together you wont get premiership success... just look at stkilda. their culture needs a real shake up no matter how many number 1 draft picks they have.

in the last decade, permiership teams have been Sydney, WestCoast, Brisbane, Essendon and PortAdelaide. None of these teams have consistently bottomed out to get to premiership success. it's unprecedented that donig so will get you sucess. geelong have built their list out of 2nd n 3rd round draft picks.

I just dont get why everyone is obsessed with losing on purpose in order to get better picks. i'd prefer a winning culture and our youngsters showing that they can beat their opponents.

The simple answer is.. what is it worth to the team to finish at X... or at Y ?

Finishing 2nd last may give us the drafting of a future Ruck. We need that, what do we get by winning all if any of the remaining games? SFA !!

This is a buisness. Take all the rosey world crap out of it and look at it from the cold hard position of effectiveness. Strangely enough if you took a literal Rosey standpoint, youd prune til hardly anythign was recognisable. Yould get rid of all read would and 'petals" and we have a few petals. Players that look good on a good day but fail to keep up the rest of the time.

I personally have no problem with tanking. Its a ploy. Its a method of getting what you need, Its actually a plan.

Demetriou has a vested interet in aying he wouldnt do it.. The AFL dont want any dilutoin of the public impression. Thats what the AFL market. it would apparently damage their pristine product if it were a\in any way a legit M.O. ( unlike the drug controversy etc..lol )

Its dog eat dog.

MFC do what ever it takes to make MFC better...and f**k the rest !!