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You can learn what it takes for one to become, if not allready, show courage,or the acts of valour.

Eg: Stopping to aid someone seriously injured at an auto accident, when their Wailing in pain. Or running into a toxic smoke filled basement, with some level of intelligence, to ascertain if no one is left in there.

Or Treating someone with a badly severed calf muscle in an industrial accident with blood everywhere & the person in shock.

Or defending someone from attack by a bunch of yobbo's.

There's plenty of ways you can stand up for what you believe in, for its the desire & belief in what your doing that gives you the reason to be courageous.

These things you discover as you mature, or can learn of yourself, at some stage, but it takes a level of passion!

Disagree.

I still feel it can't be taught- courage in the face of immanent danger- when it is known that physical harm will occur isn't something that can be lectured- it is acquired through experience- placing ones self in the situation constantly.

Your examples require courage- don't get me wrong, but a different kind of courage; a courage to stand up and show leadership. When immanent physical harm comes into the equation it's a little different. In essence, you can't be taught to be 'hard'... you have to earn it!

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Disagree.

I still feel it can't be taught- courage in the face of immanent danger- when it is known that physical harm will occur isn't something that can be lectured- it is acquired through experience- placing ones self in the situation constantly.

Your examples require courage- don't get me wrong, but a different kind of courage. A courage to stand up and do something. When immanent physical harm comes into the equation it's a little different. In essence, you can't be taught to be 'hard'... you have to earn it!

I believe it can't be lectured into someone, as you say. But it can be learnt, through explanation, then a self-diagnosis by ones self.

I was once a timid & relentlessly bullied kid, pushed around by all who wished to. At home by siblings, (older sister ) & on the street by peers & at work.

I once tolerated it.

Now if bullied, Its bully beware. On the strip.

But I prefer to be around gentle caring people where one can relax.

I stand up for what I believe in, & if necessary will fight for a cause.

We all I believe can dig deep & find it. If we want to.

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dee-luded, can't you see.. from experience (being bullied) alot, you have become more durable.. it's the point i'm trying to make. Noone taught you to stand up for yourself- you were placed in compromisable situations regularly and hence have learnt to over come this and be bullied no more.

It's placing ones self in the situation repeatedly. Almost like getting over the fear of spiders I am presuming.. I'm too [censored] scared of spiders to want to get over my phobia of them it must be said..

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dee-luded, can't you see.. from experience (being bullied) alot, you have become more durable.. it's the point i'm trying to make. Noone taught you to stand up for yourself- you were placed in compromisable situations regularly and hence have learnt to over come this and be bullied no more.

It's placing ones self in the situation repeatedly. Almost like getting over the fear of spiders I am presuming.. I'm too [censored] scared of spiders to want to get over my phobia of them it must be said..

It took me a long time. I never accepted the bullying, quietly,,,, yet tolerated my lot in life, but hated it & myself for accepting it.

It took me years & having to become aggressive, to stop it happening & one can go to far whilst learning how to manage.

But you do, hopefully learn, if you have a self questioning honest attitude & a desire to be better.

In Bennells case he has a level of courage to go out on the footy field firstly & take those little knocks & corkies, blood noses &/or broken, the slagging off etc.

So he has the basics to go further, the danger to let these indiscretions go one here & one there can have serious undermining effects on the fabric of the list.

See once again now @ Tigerland.

Its a very fine line their playing with.

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I'm sorry to hear you were bullied man, that sucks! But yeah were coming to the same point I think just arguing semantics on the delivery on it..

Anywho, dished out any revenge bashings or what young man?! B) Not that that is advocated, of course.

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I'm sorry to hear you were bullied man, that sucks! But yeah were coming to the same point I think just arguing semantics on the delivery on it..

Anywho, dished out any revenge bashings or what young man?! B) Not that that is advocated, of course.

I've been close to a rebuilding list before, & involved with it. And made my share of mistakes back then, but I never stop reflecting back on what I did, both well & wrong. I still learn from those things of information that i stored in my head but didn't get at that time.

Pity there mostly going to waste now.

But I still have an influence out there on matchday, even if some choke on their coffees when I go to work.

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I'm sorry to hear you were bullied man, that sucks! But yeah were coming to the same point I think just arguing semantics on the delivery on it..

Anywho, dished out any revenge bashings or what young man?! B) Not that that is advocated, of course.

No. Actually I'm a passive person who really can't hurt anyone nor anything. I won't & don't need even flyspray.

But I have put the fear of Christ into a couple of Bullies along the way, much to my regret. No more of that.

There's more a fear of being belittled than being physically hurt & that is a curse itself.

Learnt to turn the other cheek & walk away.

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