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Paul Roos should have relayed the message earlier that if we get in front we flood back.

Don't need to wait until after it happens to do it.

Come on, it's basic coaching.

It's basic football. Every player at any level knows to get numbers behind the ball in that situation. Poor leadership.

I reckon we shouldn't trade our first pick for anyone now that Shiel, and likely Treloar, are off the table. Hit the early picks again (would happily trade Howe for another first round pick) and add to what is already a pretty promising young, tight-knit core.

Radical idea, I know.

Man, Robbie Gray is outstanding.

Again, we show that we can't keep up in the midfield with top sides. Gray, Boak, Wines and Ebert are head and shoulders above every one of our mids unfortunately. We are desperate for Brayshaw and Petracca to come on faster than should be expected of youngsters.

Can anyone who rates Rohan Bail as a footballer please jog on.

it would have been nice to be allowed to ask questions at the AGM

But of course those wete heavily filtered.

I am genuinely suprised that more members are not sharing my views on this considering the shambles our midfield is still in.

Maybe having had hip surgery myself i see the absurdity of picking a double hip surgery recruit over a ready made jet.

And it is absurd. His hips may be ok now. But they won't be what they were

I'm now convinced you're taking the [censored].

Salem just has "it" doesn't he? The fact he didn't accumulate a whole lot of the footy in his debut season was't a concern from my perspective at all. Clean, hard, fast, clutch and a ripping left boot as well.

As for the Bont, what a joy to watch. Am genuinely pumped to see him in the flesh when we play the dogs this year. My favourite non-MFC player in the league.

One day.

Hahahahahaha

Really like it.

8 is a minimum for mine but optimistic that we can win up to 12 , port twice last year saints dogs all games we could have won , tiges blues dons saints crows port are all chances imo .

If we win 12 I'll eat my jocks.

I don't care. At all.

I'm stoked to have Lumumba at the club.

I wouldn't care if he wasn't trying to drag Lumumba's name through the mud. He's one of our boys now, so Barrett can [censored] right off.

I'm all about big Vandenberg. I like the cut of his jib.

Croke Park is outstanding.

Definitely want to go to Wrigley Field.

Pretty casual light skills training day today so not much to report.

Lamumba entertaining the troops, has them in stiches - looks like it's comedy hour.

I like ANB's allround confidence, and his goal kicking was impressive - could hear a nice thump each time.

Breaking the skills down and focusing on technique.

Kent reminds me a bit of Jakovich with his attitude - I think he likes the limelight and wants to be "the man". Fine by me just what we need.

Finished with a comp to see which teams could hit the goal post the most in one minute. Dunny copping a ribbing for every miss. Whitey & M. Jones did well and would you believe the the Ruckmen very hard to beat as a team. Maybe because they have a lot of practice at hitting the post. Speaking of posts, that's the end of mine.

Look at that, wrecking cultures as he pleases.

What a pretentious [censored], no idea why we would recruit him.

Please see below for links to some great CHFs who Hogan may be compared to. Turn your attention to the first two seasons of their careers:

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-hawthorn-hawks--jarryd-roughead

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-brisbane-lions--jonathan-brown

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-adelaide-crows--wayne-carey

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-st-kilda-saints--nick-riewoldt

Now I understand that Hogan has been with us for a couple of years already, but considering he hasn't played a single AFL game yet, I don't think it is unreasonable to treat this year like any players first.

If he kicks over 40 goals I will eat my hat.

Let's all calm down.

Yes, our draft looks good, but I've definitely heard all this before.

I think King had some inside mail on Neeld...

I love how whenever a journo writes a less than glowing piece on the club, someone will always pop up with the old "I hate so and so, has absolutely no idea etc".

Always good for a laugh.

Probably won't mean a lot to you all, but I remember watching Duggan play for St Pats as a year 10.

In a side that featured future AFL players such as Jake Neade, Dom Barry, Tanner Smith, Michael Close, Dallas Wilsmore and Matt Crouch, Duggan still caught the eye as the classiest player on the field. Anyone who saw the Herald Sun Shield final this year would've seen a young player with unbelievable ability.

Although it is unlikely, I would be fine with us taking him with pick 3.

Spoke to a mate who is involved pretty heavily at the Falcons and Geelong footy today, and he said that one of McCartin's strengths is that he can play "deep forward, high forward and even CHB if you need him to". Mentioned that he has been given the deep forward role over the last two years but is definitely more versatile than some realise.

Also said he probably should go number 1 because of St Kilda's needs, but that was pure speculation.

Forget his on-field abilities for a second, and think about what his personality will bring to the group.

We desperately need more guys with grit, strong characters who help define a group and bring the best out of those around them. Where's our Voss, Selwood, Hodge etc?

If he can play, which it sounds like he can, then surely we must take him at 3. The potential benefits are far too good to pass up.

Just on Duggan, I can almost assure you whoever takes him will get the steal of the draft.

Should be top 5, but won't be. Absolute silk.

That's 3 out of about 700 players.

It highlights that if that is the role that you are going to play, then you need to be exceptional at it. How exceptional is McCartin going to be?

Dunno, but he is probably more exceptional than Walker, Schultz and Riewoldt at the same age.

I agree. From what I recall he looked slower than Jimmy Toumpas in his highlight package.

Was it just me or did those highlights seem to be played in slow motion/half pace?

I get frustrated with these highlight packages as they never seem to show much of general play contested footy stuff. Under no pressure he can kick it very well but remember most players take a fair while to learn to kick well at AFL level because they just don't have the time they did in junior footy.

He can take a good mark for his size but I can't get a handle on his lateral movement or speed, two things I think are critical. From all reports we'll take him and while I'll trust our recruiters I don't expect much the first year.

He's one of the few where I would expect decent performances in his first year. Big bodied contested ball winners usually make the transition a lot faster than most.