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Was a fun third quarter but there's some serious mental demons (pardon the pun) amongst this group, so good luck to the new coach trying to turn it around.

How many coaches in their 9th year would survive two consecutive bottom 4 finishes? The club is cooked

He's on the plane home to wa already

Jefferson 3 years in the system, looks like should have bene a 5th round pick at best or a rookie draft type development pick. I'm seriously stunned an annoyed at that selection

Spot on. End of the day the buck stops with the senior coach. The same shortcomings have existed with his teams for years

I'm not convinced he had a crack at max. I saw max react angrily to another player just a second before May. So bit harsh without knowing the facts.

I remember on draft night the AFL site didn't even have a pic of Kolt on his draft profile. I sense Taylor got a bit ahead of himself that night. Whatever the result of this game, it's just horrible football.

18 more weeks of this debacle. Are we officially in crisis? Goodwin must go now! I didn't buy the love in stuff for a second. This place is rotten .

Enough is enough. This is really shameful from Goodwin and co. We always knew he has no clue how to coach ball movement but to also now be the worst clearance team in the comp is unacceptable.

Great gutsy win. Amazing what some good set shot kicking can do for a result.

Lots to be concerned about and little to enthuse.

What hurts is the thing we all feared would cost us a final did. Completely unacceptable forward structure and execution. Embarrassing back to back straight sets now on the cards. The players really let us down tonight. The first quarter was quite pathetic really given what was at stake. Thought May and mcvee played well. Didn't rate anyone elses game

Disappointing result. More becuase it was Carlton. We were poor for large portions of the game which is a common trend unfortunately. However the last 20 minutes was fantastic from a physicality/contest point of view, just can't execute going forward. It will cost us in September unless McDonald has a massive impact. Viney is an absolute beast. Amazing. The Grundy selection was costly. Bowie had a poor game and lost some crucial contests. The umpiring continues to be abysmal.

Liability

The dees dynasty is over

Exactly my point

Not so sure, Langdon is fairly ineffectual most of the time. At least compared to prior years. Running 10kms doesn't mean much on it's own.

Derrrrrr I mean after that. Wasted 2 years since the premiership lost in its prime. Going in the wrong direction

I know you're tongue in cheek but Goodwin is 100% the problem here. How many years grace will our soft club give this guy?

Agree, but questions need to be asked about our coaches and strategy also.

No surprise we got blown away once the weather cleared and the game opened up.

Well said. Nailed it.

That's the thing. Any team that can do the fundamentals will beat us easily

Two horrible teams. What a fall from grace by the dees. This is not finals or premiership winning football

Our premiership chances are over. The "gameplan" is abhorrent and the players are lost. The season would be recoverable under any other coach than Goodwin. What a waste of a talented list.