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1 hour ago, Bonkers said:

A fair amount of spin as others have mentioned. How in the world Gawn thinks he is closer to a premiership now than before is mind boggling. He will most likely be a spent force in one or 2 years. Those draft picks that they are spruiking are going to take a lot longer to turn into A grade players than that. I get the club is trying to paint a pretty picture for us all and I’d be happy to be proven wrong. The reality is we are looking at being at the bottom of the ladder or thereabouts for the foreseeable future and we are hoping players like Langford, Windsor and Lindsay can take up the positions of players like Petracca and Oliver, which is a massive ask. Long term it may turn out fine, but we are in rebuild mode and that is not the messaging they gave prior to the trade period. It is what it is I guess, what other option did they have.

So I think Max looks at the squad and sees 2 significant players gone. He lived with Clarry so is very close to his concerns. He has literally and figuratively fed him and understands what is required. He must believe that he can be replaced within the squad by others lifting, and maybe more aware than others of how change needs to be affected. Petracca was also certainly a significant part of the premiership group but as stated the 2025 Patracca is not the 21 Petracca. Again I believe he changed but sees his role as a job, he may not be the game breaking Norm Smith big time player that a premier team needs. Again Max would be closer to him than most, and closer to the squad to understand who might step up to replace him in a new structure and game plan. Im happy to go with Max.

It is a massive test of King, and the club but I think the truths of the public statements are certainly good. We all move on GO DEES

There's always the allure of father son continuity for a club. Ashcrofts at Bears and SOS at Carlton are the two that spring to mind.

Of course we have Viney and Barassi as successes .Stretch a recent not quite.

AFL participation is a difficult career and subject to many influences. As has been stated Taj has played 21 games which is more than many. Was he given enough support/ opportunity? Only he and the club can know. Its a pity for him and I hope he has alternative options to pursue. I also hope he does not leave with bitterness and can speak positively of his experiences at the club. Would be good to get some insight into his feelings, perhaps he could be invited into Demonland podcast etc.

12 hours ago, No. 31 said:

I think C'Wood will be constrained in the Olympic Park area. Trends in training areas and the emergence of AFLW makes it too small going into the future. I think the Pies would actually be better off seeking nee facilities in the Yarra Bend area, lots of football ovals there only a stone's throw from their ancestral 'hood.

I could then see the Olympic Park area being developed into a small boutique stadium for general VFL and AFLW usage.

The Dees will call Caulfield home.

So Olympic Park too small for MFC purposes as well.

Hope Caulfield gets announced quickly and meets all our needs with no interference from racing industry.

I appreciate its real advantages especially with Public Transport and the space to incorporate our playing and administrative groups at a single site. Access by members will certainly be improved.

On 08/10/2025 at 11:26, Demonland said:

Obviously this fake news has forced Collingwood into making changes.

It should be easy to stack their own voting. Then they can move on the Brownlow.

They already control the AFL and the tribunal.

On 08/10/2025 at 11:26, Demonland said:

Obviously this fake news has forced Collingwood into making changes.

On 11/10/2025 at 17:25, RickyJ45 said:

We all need to support either Craig Drummond or Peter Allen for the next AFL chair, to limit Eddie's influence through Peter Gordon.

Beginning around 2008-2009, Collingwood massively lobbied for control over Olympic Park, a site historically important for athletics but also valuable for a training ground close to Melbourne's sports precinct. Unfortunately we were asleep at the wheel and the Collingwood filth effectively took over the Olympic Park training facility from the MFC through backroom strategic negotiations, conflicts of interest (Eddie McGuire serving on the Athletics Australia board) and leveraging political influence.

Our goal should be to take back what is rightfully and geographically more accurately "ours" and send collingwood back to collingwood where they came from. if Peter Gordon doesn't get up then we can have a real crack at Olympic Park. Watch out!

Perhaps I could move my advocacy of Fishermans Bend to Collingwood, convincing them that a move to a greenfield site with plenty of potential for a purpose built training, admin, corporate ,retail, entertainment centre, part of the facilities for 70,000 new residents, could be an idea that the government department now responsible (Dept of Transport) might find attractive as adestination point for a new tram line and potential for enhanced public transport access. A bold, progressive and dynamic idea that a club like Collingwood with its large membership and its influence of AFL could undertake.

On 08/10/2025 at 18:08, red and blue forever said:

I really do try to keep it factual though.

the Age, Foxfooty and the AFL website have all said Mihocek is coming to Melbourne. on a 2 year deal.

the finer points of compensation/late pick swap has not been finalised, but it is happening.

OK so sometimes I go a little early, and no not rely on it being posted on the official melbournefc website. but they are slower than a legless camel

I will endeavor to be more patient in the future. I also want this seen as a Factual Bible of our list

there is no other club. or site, where such a comprehensive and up to date list exists in the entire AFL.

It is a BIG responsibility I really try to take seriously

I reckon you do a great job and appreciate all your efforts. It isnt easy to keep it current and sort the rumours from the facts. I have found that you always seem to get it right or amend as soon as any errors are noticed.

Keep up the good work.

Just a casual and very uneducated comment is that JVR seemed to have arms chopped and get pushed under the ball often by opponents. He also seemed to fly at the ball only to spill the mark. He also seemed to be penalised when playing with vigour, while opponents were allowed to treat him with vigour.

I reckon he could do with some strength and conditioning to make position and hold position..

and maybe with that positioning an awareness of where the umpires are, oh and some acting classes. Hawk may be able to give him some hints on how to exploit his presence in the contest.

Strength and conditioning are as important as desire and intent.

dont know much about Rogers or the real value of picks but agree that we ho;d the upper hand.

Tracc is a recognised game breaker, NS winner and still high Brownlow votes for our club. He is on a contract that recognises his value to the club.

He has said its his job and if he comes to work for us he will continue to give his best and will prove his worth. It is his brand.

Same with Oliver who really values his game and has said he owes the club.

We need to keep them both and King can use them to get the best from them. They improve any side which is why others want them.......They just cant afford them.

The test match game shows how far we have progressed.

Andy and demonland have allowed us all to enjoy a game of a different technology.

I was around when computers were invented and helped inject them into every aspect of life. The systems were big, clunky and required teams of highly and uniquely skilled programmers, technicians and operators.

I dont know how Andy and the team maintain DLand but am forever grateful that they do. Their dedication and passion is only matched by the many contributors, Special thanks to the trackwatchers.

Hope springs eternal and while our fortunes on the field are unknown we have no need to hope with Dland, it remains in so many ways a consistent, igniting stirring and calming so many emotions.

THANK YOU.

Ive said on other threads and the picture leading this shows thay his muscle development is not as pronounced as players playing a similar role. Get him in the gym and build the strength and bulk hell be ok. Hes still a kid.

I agree with a lot on the thread, especially gym work. Stand Roo and Jeffo next to Gallup Logan and other teams forwards Dear excluded and they are all well muscled and look more solid than ours. A bit of bulk and strength would help. I also know that there are many different body types and all are needed, but most importantly they need to ne matched up on appropriate opponents every week. I hope the coach can use the players better this year.

43 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I guess Id be happier if he reiterated Christian is a once in a generation player and further said as a strong club we will be working with him to make sure our club is better with him in it.

I believe a strong club uses every resource available. A strong club will get the best from an individual and will use the player to achieve short and long term success. You dont give your opposition resources that you should use.

It may take some hard conversation between the coach and the player as to what and how success is defined. In AFL team success is greater than the individual and this must be considered before Christian goes anywhere. Certainly if he comes back to the club it would require some pretty strong argument from him about why we let him go.

22 minutes ago, Green Demon said:

Why congratulate NDaicos? He is just one of hundreds that didn't win it.

Interesting power dynamic that that comment was made by Goyder the AFL chairman

12 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

How do you know any of this for suyou can let it go GW,re? You’re obviously believing what the media fed you, and that’s your prerogative. I might also believe what was reported had I not heard differently from the very people about whom the rumours swirled. But even then I wouldn’t reply with “LOL of course he did” when challenging someone who’s telling you what they’ve been told straight from the horse’s mouth, so to speak.

I can only say it a finite number of times before my patience abandons me, which is pretty much right now. You believe what you wanna believe, even if it comes from Tom Morris et al.

you can let it go GW History shows you got it right. Save your efforts for all you do for us in the future.

i Hope its another cunning plan by our renewed leaders/

Leave the press focus on Judd who is already signed and committed and take the scrutiny of Tracc Clarrie etc.

Its an introduction of turning defence into attack.

On 12/09/2025 at 15:06, OhMyDees said:

Very disappointed - don’t think King is better than Buckley but time will tell. AFL got what they wanted.

Hope thats correct and this decision improves our media and especially relationship with MRO and officiating personnel

On 12/09/2025 at 15:01, Lucifers Hero said:

A nice start from hiim:

“Melbourne has a rich history, and I feel very humbled to be given this opportunity at one of the oldest professional sporting clubs in the world,” King said. “I can’t wait to meet the playing group, my fellow coaches, the staff, and the Demon faithful, and start building towards 2026.”

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And yet we must wait while he completes the finals campaign with the cats.

I fully support him and must wait to see what he brings and how he relates to Ghostwriter. The most significant contact.

The Age article quotes KIng as saying he "cant wait to meet" players coaches etc. And yet he is involved in the Geelong finals campaign so we are, and must all wait.

Hope communication can be improved

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I am very happy with the appointment and dont expect him or the club to reveal the plans, strategies, programs, Etc that he will bring. I will certainly judge him on results and hope he can get the results from our list that is possible. Strength and confidence are two issues that must be addressed.

19 hours ago, Vipercrunch said:

Can anyone share what he's like dealing with the media? I think Goodwins lack of spark with the media made him, and the club, a perceived easy target. It's obviously not the most important qualification, but a strong media performer can definetly keep the Fugazi noise down.

This is a significant feature of the role. I hope the club also supports him in responding to press conjecture with a positive and consistent response.

12 hours ago, demon3165 said:

You can teach body positioning, and you can teach leading patterns, and while forward instincts take time, you can at least make them competitive.

I reckon we have seen that you can also teach frustration and hesitancy.

The fact that our vigorous forwards JVR Kozzie are continually penalised for attacking the ball.

It seems we seldom receive free kicks for over the shoulder and tripping in our forward line. Tracc, Clarry Kozzie continually held off the ball, Blocking and interference is rarely paid. Play on is often called when there is no resulting advantage. All tese lead to rushed kicks and poor disposal.

These things occur in the game and cannot be practised or trained for as it is usually dependant upon the umpire at the time there is no consistency.

More significantly, the commentators, immediately said the free was wrong, they love the violence on and off the ball.

it does seem that some teams and players can use vigour and others cant.

Well thanks DLand. You have just saved me some time as it doesnt seem essential to watch the game.

Sorry end to the season.

Thanks to KC and all commentators for VFL , your insights and close attention are very much appreciated.

It seems the club has a lot of work to do in regaining relevance so the umpires treat us equally to our opposition even at this level.

17 hours ago, BigBadBustling said:

Is there any coverage of this game? Is it really happening?

I couldnt get any access. No worries I have seen every other football and thought I would watch the Casey game on replay "as live" with no knowledge of the result.

I have bought into Kayo as required if you want to follow Dees in the country and cant afford to sustain the local publican thinking id catch it there. No Luck

Nothing on the mighty 7+.

Ive caught some of the sports shows and all the news. No mention of the game

I currently watching St Marys play Palmerston magpies on NTIV But

Youve guessed it no CAsey.

The AFL have ensured that MFC followers are treated with the irrelevance they have always wanted us to have.

I hope to now find that CASEY have triumphed and I hope they smash the opposition and win the flag, Surely the AFL wont ignore that game.

How good is Hanks?????