Moonshadow

Sam McLure in The Age saying Watson hasn't returned the medal and claims he's not sure of its whereabouts. Yeah, right. HAND IT BACK JOBE! "But after Watson decided – in his own words – to "hand it back" and the commission unanimously voted to give medals to runners-up Sam Mitchell and Trent Cotchin, the medal should have been returned. The fact that there are now three 2012 Brownlow Medals in circulation is a testament to the sheer absurdity of the situation."

Too much hokey pokey?

Maybe even Borewood. Nah, just joshin'.

Well Biff, even though the Greeks invented s ex, it was the Italians who introduced women to the concept.

Lets not forget that the Greeks have given us a fair bit too...

Bah! ...What have the Romans ever done for civilisation?

Think you need to move to Romsey manor Biff. I hear BBO has a gimp room that needs occupying. The only traffic there is the illegal kind, of which you may already know

With her ball boy Earl. Geez, do you not know anything?

Prodee is MIA as well. However, Uncle Bitter is back from his 50 lashes and 14 day solitary confinement.

You're not going to go picture crazy again are you Toady? Remember what happened last time?

I hope it's leather and comes with matching gimp mask

Dunno. Maybe he just wanted to play footy with his mates and Hird, Danks, et al had been removed.

Point taken. But I would guess that all players take some forms of suppliments, presumably legal. Even vitamins and protein substances are suppliments which players should disclose to ASADA. If you are saying Zacka knew the program included banned drugs, that implies they all knew. I ask you 2 questions Pineapple: How solid is your source? If Zacka was aware, were the others?

For all professional sportspeople who are subjected to ASADA/WADA testing, it could not be clearer.

Sloony has clearly decided to flee the United States of Trumperica and run away to an isolsted island somewhere in the Pacific. No, not Manus Island. A little to the left of Manus. It's an uncivilised populace, not as uncouth as Trumperica, but savage nonetheless. Where the locals survive only by raising livestock and digging up the mineral riches. I believe it's called Straya. Good Luck Sloony. You'll need it.

Wasn't Zacha's fear of needles the reason he didn't participate, or was he against the supplement program? Not sure.

Agree. Your last sentence sums it up beautifully bub.

And what a worthy recipient Simon would be!

There are examples of larger sports where no winner or prize was awarded due to doping. eg Tour de France. agree to disagree, no probs

Where are you going JC?

Ineligibility by WADA due to a doping ban isn't near the same as a one match suspension dc. Sometimes it's ok to not award an award, that was my point. In this case it's a long time after the event and I believe the best option would be to leave it blank.

I think there should be no winner of the Brownlow for that year. In the (far) past of the VFL, there were breaks or gaps in awards such as the premierships due to extenuating circumstances. I'm not comparing world wars or death with a drug cheat, just that sometimes awards don't have to be awarded.

This will certainly be massaged into a win for Watson, EFC and the AFL instead of being as a result of his and his club's deplorable actions. He had no choice but to lose the medal due to being banned. It's not honourable or 'big' of him, he was banned for breaking the PED rules and carries the badge of being a drug cheat forever more. He may we'll be a nice bloke, but he, his team mates and his club have not been honest or open on this matter.

And the taste is a bonus, so I've been told.

How will that help daisy's morning glory Eth?