nutbean

Is there a need to call the fire brigade as he is on fire ?

But it is reading as so contradictory. From all that is printed ( my first mistake relying on that) is that he is upset with his handling - that can only mean that he believes the medico's advised him to come back too early. If I accept that is indeed the case, on face value then I get that. But he is also upset that he hasn't played enough games to trigger the last year payment of his contract ? The two problems are absolute polar opposites aren't they ?

The Trumpster is probably the most sensitive person I have ever witnessed in politics from any persuasion ( short of authoritarian regime heads who shot or imprisoned people of other beliefs rather than tweet). At some stage he has gonna have to listen to his advisers who must be saying to him - "mate, you gotta let it go"

How do we know that Josh Mahoney isn't making up that the media aren't making up the bit about making things up ?

It is such a confusing situation. He is seeking more information about concussion - it sounds like that at moment he can't play ( or doesn't want to play ) because of concussion risk and not overly happy with the approach the medico's have taken - that can only mean that he thinks they cleared him too early - however on the flip side it sounds like he is unhappy that he hasn't played enough games to trigger a contract extension. So in summary - H is not happy that he wasn't allowed to play and not happy that he was allowed to play.... hmmm

Not sure that is right. I think the left is as derogatory of the right as the right is of the left. The diatribes against Trump and Clinton knew no bounds - and in both cases - some justified.

Seriously ? What has this got to do with left or right or race ? Poor behavior crosses all spectrums and from my reading he is behaving poorly.

Mt Scopus in burwood - our SRC ( student representative council) were very active. Over the years we saw Daddy Cool, Chain, Spectrum ( I think they were murtecps by then) , Madder Lake, Chain and in my last year - skyhooks just before they broke big ! I am sure there were more but that's the ones i remember. They used to play in our assembly hall at lunch time - so it was about 30 minutes - not much more than that. ( my last year was 1975)

I will settle for - " it could have been a lot worse". But you are 100% right in saying that nobody is going to benefit if at the end of 4 years all we have got to say is " I told you so". I too hope that he will be a successful president.

Again I re-iterate - it is a person by person thing irrespective of political persuasion. I acknowledge that both sides of politics are guilty of verbal abuse. I acknowledge that some on both sides of politics will own up to it and some on both sides of politics won't. Both sides have individuals that are racist, misogynist etc etc. I will also state in regards to the present US scene that when a candidate suggests that he wants to ban an entire religion entering the country that amounts to racism/bigotry but throughout history you have governments on both sides of political spectrum that have resorted to racism and bigotry - communist Russia was virulently anti semitic and oppressed minorities. And both the left leaning and right leaning media has been over vocal on issues and too quiet on others - You mentioned Gillard - her treatment by the press when she was PM was appalling and went unchecked. Some of the comments by Radio shock jocks barely rated a mention I think trying to point to behaviors of entire group (the"left or the right") being worse one way or the other is showing a bias. However you can point to behaviors of the individual and am happy to say that regarding the US political I would sorely disagree with policies of the likes of Cruz and Rubio but did not have an issue with their behavior . Trump is an entirely different matter. However on Trump I think everyone is going to be disappointed with him. I think those who support the democrats will be angered by what he does do and those who did support Trump are going to be disappointed as he is backing away from campaign promises and it is only two weeks since he was elected and months away from inauguration.

I really dislike labeling this issue as "left" or "right". In my opinion inflammatory language and the need to acknowledge the offense it has caused or the absence of the acknowledgment is not confined to either side of politics. It is not a right or left issue - it is an individual person thing and they exist across the political spectrum.

I think it is what should be "the known and expected" as opposed to the reality of these kids being kids. I talked to an administrator of a club ( not ours) and he said that amount of education that goes into the players regarding drugs and alcohol would blow our minds. They reflect first on all important legal aspects but then go on to educate on how it impacts performance. So every players is in no doubt as to what is required to make it to the top level but that doesn't mean that kids won't make stupid mistakes.

3km time trials should basically be used as individual benchmark for the players. To suggest that ANB will make it because of a top 3 finish ignores the reality. Being a great runner doesn't make you a great footballer - just look back at some of past players who were great in the 3km time trial but fairly average footballers . What it does show is that ANB is in the best shape he has ever been in since his arrival and that gives him the best chance of making an impression.

Well posted. I think both right and left are guilty of being sucked into the world of issue brinkmanship - the need to take an issue or an argument to the extreme to get headlines ( or to get noticed at all !). The example of Matthew Guy yesterday. He was interviewed and went on the attack about crime - which is a conversation worth having. He suggested crime was out of control, penalties weren't harsh enough and made an innocuous comment about non Australian citizens who commit crime should be deported. He broached three issues within the major theme. His arguments were well presented and balanced. Then he went on his facebook page with a link to his interview and all he said was " Enough is enough. If you commit violent crimes and are not an Australian citizen, then you have worn out your welcome and should be deported. " - google statistics and you will find that non Australian citizens are the least of the problem with crime - but it is the part of the issue that appealed to the mob and succeed in getting them worked up. I read 4 comments on his post and that was more than enough for me. So many issues are worth discussing and it is necessary to have a rational debate on them. Unfortunately politics has turned into a bad game of who can stretch the truth the further-est or just outright lie and get believed.

Saw Madder Lake at school during lunchtime for a $1 - money well spent. If I was being honest, I can remember seeing them but have no idea what they were like. On the other hand, I do remember seeing Jeff Duff with Kush at school. They played one and a half songs, Jeff simulated oral sex with his guitarist and the school principal saw this, pulled the plug and announced the gig as over !

To be fair, I think there has been precious little outrage either. There has got to be some middle ground between dismissing the incident completely and putting him in front of a firing squad. I suggest that blowing any alcohol reading when you are on P's is foolish (and the law is in place for a reason) and will elicit some form of punishment - definitely from the police and probably from the leadership group. These sorts of offenses (even though this appears on the minor end of the scale) is something sponsors absolutely hate. I dont drink so .05 has never been a problem but have absolutely sped and copped my right whack on occasions. But there has to be an understanding that different professions have different standards associated with them. With all the money in AFL there is an expectation from the league, the club, the players themselves and certainly supporters that players conduct themselves in a certain way on and off the field. To re-iterate - it is not a hanging offense but merely acknowledgment of a behavior that is below expectation. We move on.

. I think he likes Shakespeare better...

I like Harmes hardness and willingness to run - he does need to clean up his disposal. The league is littered with players who can get the ball but aren't clean enough in their disposal. We have learned from great Hawthorn sides that other clubs can have hardness and ball winning ability in spades but you need the great majority of your team being good by foot to take that next step.

whole lot of jumping to conclusions without the slightest shred of evidence - until we know for sure otherwise he deserves some support and respect. (sorry OD - just because MC may have done the wrong thing by the club, I am proud that the club did the right thing by him) I'm with you on this one TPF39.

I'd suggest that if Lumumba is walking like a duck and quacking like a duck then there is every chance he has concussion (and more)

no no - segwaying is acceptable... derailing - is when i call you an old codger and you call me a know nothing who can't add 2+2.

Damn you - I didn't know that maths problems were a prerequisite to coming onto Demonland....

Cuts down options when a player refuses to use his non preferred - I long for days when we argued about which was Robbie Flowers non preferred foot as you seriously could not tell

Gee whizz - where on earth did all that come from ? quoting the MFC release ( which i haven't seen) - he has lingering issues from concussion - you have taken the leap to unacceptable disruption and haul before the leadership group and law down law and taking things inot his hands and not accepting the club position ! ( I too am skeptical about H playing another game but until I hear otherwise I will accept the official line that he has ongoing concussion issues)

Quite interesting. As an example - Paul Kelly's lyrics are taught as a unit in VCE English as Poetry. ( or "was" when my kids were doing VCE 6 years ago)