deeko

They now owe us 8pts

My only issue with Bernie is the spot he is playing. I'm sure he isn't selecting himself as a back flanker. He's not a natural backman at all and I am sure he would be as frustrated with his own performance as much as the rest of us.

Unfortunately in the meantime with no other players available he needs to play a role that simply doesn't suit him 

To say he's finished however is ridiculous. If he's played back in the guts he would be more damaging (imo) than all our mids other than Jones and Oliver. 

Lots of great coaches change the way the game is played instead of copying others. I thought that's what Bails was trying to do during his time and can't help but wonder what could have been achieved if he had the chance to tinker with his all out attacking game plan and then add a stronger board and higher quality playing list. Maybe nothing, maybe something.

In hindsight jagging 8.5 wins in 2010 with the list we had was a bloody fine effort. He managed well to get the best out of a lot of players during his time which never showed much before or after in Petterd, Morton, Gysberts, Moloney and Jamar.

Mel is wonderful speaker and incredibly passionate about the game. Great to listen to her.

The Hickey family name is massive around Mildura with her dad being a star years before and his cousin Tony winning about half a dozen league B&Fs up here (or something ridiculous like that) and still playing first division cricket.

I never met Mel personally but she has been back up in the bush a few times working with the new women's league that started up last year. I only hear great things about her so she's clearly another astute pick up by the dees.

Hopefully we get a few more years out of her running around in the red and blue  

7 minutes ago, binman said:

That's good. He certainly has competition for spots this year but i have a lot of time for frosty and reckon he has significant upside. His athleticism, ability to play tall but most of all his pace and ability to run though lines are all super valuable traits in modern footy and our game plan in particular. I would be very surprised if he is not regular in our 22.

Yes completely agree. I love his pace and has a bit of agro about him and have him entrenched in my backline in the best 22.

Still, I'm not super on his kicking ability and worry slightly with him standing next to the Macs and possibly Hunt. None of which are outstanding by foot.

This is why I think Hibberd being fit is vital

Just had a little shoulder scan at Aami park and popped in for a coffee next door and I see Dion, Hibb, Jeffy, Nev and Shannon Byrnes. 

Coming from the bush it's a wonderful surprise. Too shy to speak to the players but had a quick chat with Shannon who said Frosty will be playing tomorrow in the intra club and should be fine come Rd 1

Really need to see Pedo, Kent, Tyson, Watts, Jetta and Garlett in JLT3 before making the decision as when on they are all in my best 22.

I feel Jetta is getting some tough treatment here. He has played throughout the midfield and up forward in his career so there is no reason why he can't 'up' his attacking game from the backline.

Also, Kent, Garlett and Watts add skill and speed plus were three out of our top 4 goal kickers last year. If they are good to go they are definitely in. 

The nqr's un Vanders, Spencer, Harmes, Bugg, Trenners and Smith all bring things to the table and will get there chances during the season but not round 1.

9 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

The Hibberd reports are a bit disappointing. You'd think he'd at least come in decent shape. 

 

Once again thanks everyone for the reports, very much appreciated. 

He didn't look that unfit and I thought he ran ok.

Someone said that Milkshake made a comment on the radio seeing he was fat or unfit or something. Thinking it's a bit of banter between the boys rather than fact imo

12 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Gee top report from Deeko, Maccas bark is worse than his bite, although he did knock my hat off before training

Hogan again one the standouts along with Watts

Any questons will try to answer

 

 

Thanks Saty.

He definitely barked a few times at the boys and then gave them a pat afterwards. Was good to see. 

But when he gets that stare going towards you... wowwee. I'm a 32 year old and a solid 6'2" and still got a chill haha.

15 minutes ago, A F said:

 

Melksham is perhaps the other not so definite starter for mine. He and Vince may well be competing for the same spot, unless they see time for Bernie on a wing. It'll be interesting to see who Goodie favours. All coaches do.

This is what excites me the most with the inclusions so far.

Another mature and classy player comes in further increasing the standards. 

If we have another season like this one with minimal injuries I'd be worried if I was a Ben K, Bugg, JKH or Nibbler (and obviously a couple others) who really should be looking at cementing there place.

Well bringing in Lewis and Hibberd while Melksham coming back is going to change this a lot.

Enjoyed our baby demons but it's hard not to expect bigger things for 2017 with a harder and more mature crew that should be again more consistent.

FB:  Oscar.      Frost.      Jetta

HB:  Hibberd   T Mac     Melksham

C:    Vince.       Viney      Hunt

HF:  Petracca   Hogan   Kent

FF:  Garlett      Weid      Watts

R:  Gawn      Jones      Lewis

Int:  Brayshaw, Oliver, Tyson, Salem, Stretch, Pedo?? Who knows. Probably forgot a few.

Bit of a challenge trying to squeeze all the players in but I'm happy we are no longer the babies.

3 hours ago, stuie said:

Just going to leave this here for anyone saying Boomer would give us things we don't already have....

I like Kent but don't forget boomer still receives a higher quality defender or tag more frequently

I love how we are keeping our boys playing instead of putting them on ice for preseason. Couldn't get better practice for the big time than a heated contest today.

unfortunately things like the Salem incident happen, hopefully we see no more.

I played a bit of footy with Masters who tackled Salem, one of the least dirty players you'll see. Just awful how these things happen sometimes 

2 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

About to turn 30 will not come cheap.

Been injured majority of year unsure if he can get back to his best

Quality player but not sure what is his best position in our current best 22.

 

He could still play 3 or 4 years easily on a back flank like is becoming quite common to protect the more mature players.

Doesn't matter what spot he would play for us, as other than a key position he would be better than any other player we have.

Im a fan but no idea what we could offer to get him over

Deledio could be on the way out of tiger land. Not sure how much the cost would be but would hope we are asking the question

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

I may as well put this , I had a good chat to H at training, there was a concern with his concussion, he was in the hands of neurologists etc, the decision was to stop everything, give him an extended break so to speak.

The prognosis going forward is good, he was feeling a whole lot better with everything when I spoke to him

Just wants to be ready day 1 pre season and take it from there

Glad to hear if this is the case and hopefully he comes back stronger and keen.

I think H is one of those 'cherry on top' players. Will look better as we do and adds a very important ingredient in leg speed.

I would still find a spot on a back flank if he gets back to his best so not issues in holding him whilst contracted even though he's clearly a different cat.

Hopefully this would see Hunt unleashed on a wing also

I've watched him very closely the last ten or so weeks primarily as I brought him into my SuperCoach team.

He may have some skill but he is incredibly soft and cracks the sads way to easy for my liking. 

Definite flat track bully who jags a lot of his goals from the old "joe the gooses"

I'd rather Boomer at 38

I would take him for 12 months as he has skill and pace to burn. Also has slotted 30 odd goals this year which is another decent effort.

I can promise that a lot of the anger built up against him on this thread would be removed the first game he plays well in a close win where he kicks 3 or 4

On 24 August 2016 at 1:23 PM, The Sailing Demon said:

And he is also one of the best looking players on our list.

And that stuff counts.

It does for Miss Deeko who has taken a bit of an interest in football after creeping on Dom.  

Means more games I get to attend.

Watching the Suns and there has to be a few unhappy campers there who would want out.

No idea the contract status of a few of them but Hall, Miller, Saad and Kolodashnij interest. Most give that bit of outside toe which would be nice. 

Kolo showed a lot last year and has gone backwards at a rate of knots this season. Surely would be keen on a change of scnenery

I have a hypothetical query around selection of we made finals.

If say the Weed played the next two wins, takes only a handful of grabs and gets minimal touches while Pedo is looking good in the twos; would you:

A: Play the more in form player and experienced body in Cam who would probably add more value.

B: Give the Weed the experience now in finals as he's the future and would be expected to be leading us up forward hopefully for the next dozen years and would know what to expect next year.

I would have backed in Cam all the way to play but even though we all know that going forward he's a depth player. Right now however I feel the selection is still focused on the future. 

Thoughts?

The OP confuses me.

How is it possible to win this years flag from ninth?

12 hours ago, Akum said:

Two words - "Cooney" and "Adam".

Sensational mid before, competent mid after.

Did Cooney have the exact same injury but?

Just want to make sure we arent comparing apples with oranges. If Cooneys injury was the same than no way we would be interested but if it's a likely 100% recovery than I'd be asking what the price would be.

2 hours ago, McQueen said:

He's a handy player Roost It but the 3 blokes you've mentioned above are on the park every week and developiing very nicely.

This might sound silly but before he got his injury he was also on the park nearly every week IIRC. Didn't he play every game early for his first couple seasons??

I know nothing about the injury or recovery time but if it's something that's expected to heal 100% then I would hope we are at least asking the question.

Do injuries like this continue to occur once they have began?