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Ta. The other metric is crowd size in relation to membership numbers. So only 54k turning up to a tigers home game againsy the dees is worse than if 54k turning up to a dees home game because they have so many more members. I'd argue, in addition to the social media stuff influencing dees fans perception of our preparedness to turn up to the footy, a big factor in this weird enduring myth Is the media has been driving this myth as long as I can remember. A perfect example of the impact on the public perception when the footy media push false and/or misleading narratives. Even dees fan buy into the dees fans don’t turn up myth.

There's always someone willing to sell the farm.....

I didn't mean 15k dees fans wouldn't turn up. I meant they are the home team, and get the gate receipts. And I'm guessing the crowd will be up to 15k less than it might otherwise been if not for the maltidas game. Hence my comment the matilda game might cost the blues 15k fans. As in literally cost them in terms of reduced revenue. Do dees fans turn up? Well i do. I know you live in the country dazzler, so it's a top effort by you to regularly get to games. At least that's my assumption, otherwise surely you wouldn't be knocking dees fans for not turning up. Are you going tonight? And our crowds have been pretty good this season I would have thought, bar two or three games. There were more dees fans at the tigers home game and pretty healthy crowds for the two previous games given the crows and lions are non Vic teams. Let's see what the mcc looks like vis a vis how many dees fans turn up compared to blues fans. It can be a little misleading on TV because the cameras face the shane warne fans where more oppo fans sit.

Agree on that. In fact I'm guessing, that with the weather, the matilda game might cost the blues 15k fans. Plenty of fans, particularly anyone who hasn't bought a reserved seat will just stay home and watch item back to back in the comfort of their lounge room.

No. But if I was on the fence about going to the footy (which I'm not), a game which is on free to air TV too, and didn't want to miss the matildas game i might decide to stay home and watch both back to back on 7. With it on the big screen at the footy, I might think, hey that's cool I'll go watch it at th g and then watch the dees. Which is exactly what I'm doing.

He's so well spoken.....

We willl win our last three and so it won't matter if the lions win But yes to a gruelling and bone crunching game ( for both sides).

To be fair, they have made finals for, what 12 years, won three flags, made mutiple prelims and played in a losing gf. That is an amazing record, one that had made it very hard to restock with quality young players through the draft.

That's what I meant. If they have, extremely risky. Unnecessarily so. One, that would increase the risk of soft tissue injuries (as per selwyn Griffith) at a time when a two to three week injury to a couple of key players (eg Moore hammy, Sidebottom some foot issue) could disrupt their preparation for finals. Two, they risk losing one of their biggest advantages - the aura of invincibility. And three surely you want to be coming into finals with a decent block of games where you are playing your best footy? Let's say they have gone hard on the track. Well all three of the above risks have come to pass. Not that it matters if they are loading and are flying in September. I have had us as premiership favourites all season. The market is now catching up (my tip - we will be favourites with the bookies on Sunday morning). Even with no inury concerns, at their fittest and playing their very best football we have them covered.

This times 100, 000, 000

Yes, very interesting. It's possible they have been doing some sort of pre season loading program because they simply don't have the same run they had in the first half of the season. Nowhere near it. And they are not running out games like they do at their best. And they don't have the run we have atm either. Nowhere near it. We are stronger for longer. The alternative is they haven't got their program right and that are simply running out of gas late in the season in the exact same way we did last year (our lack of run late in games at this point in the season was equally apparent). The latter is probably the more likely scenario becuase after a season of being hunted, they have just played their 4th super physical, taxing game in a row. That has to take a huge toll. And they have the Lions next Friday night. And finish the season against the bombers, which may not be as taxing but will be a packed house and the bombers may be playing for spot in the finals. So potentially six taxing games in a row, with Daicos and Moore out and queries on Steele's fitness I watched the last quarter of out round 22 game against the blues prior to this game and it was full on finals pressure, We then backed up against the Pies for another epic and finished the season at the gabba. I have no doubt that run flattened us.

Cats shot. 'Superp performance from collingwood' Brayshaw said. He can't be serious. Yes good enough to win a flag, but not on that performance. All of their vulnerabilities were on show again, particularly their defensive issues. And they have not got a premiership midfield Cats were a defensive horror show and slow as a wet week. And the reality is the pies allowed dads army to put 100 points past them and got smashed in terms of inside 50s in the last quarter. All the pies last quarter goals were a result of absolute howler clangers from the cats. Let's see how they go next week against the lions. They will struggle big time to cover the lions talls with no Moore.

That's exactly right. Were unfit round one. And have never got fit since. I don't care if the pies go on to win this game by 80 points. Proves zip. Their fans and fan boys get a sugar hit, but they do not look like the favourites for premiership threat atm. I'm not saying they can't turn it around, but geez they want to do it quickly. We will get a better guide next Friday night.

Cmon cats. Season's over. Get clumsy. Sharpen up the elbows. Put some mayo on the tackle. Bump. Maul. Scrap.

That goal to Cameron was the perfect example of the above.

The way the pies push up so high defensively just exposes them.time and time again.

Ta. Won't be 70 i dont think then. I can't remember what game it was, a big one last year - the second tigers game maybe. GA started half way up the top section of the Ponsford, with the rest reserved seats. And that crowd was 70k

They should. Yes the pies pressure was better that quarter, as was their run, but to my eye, they still didn't look to be running over the ground like they were pre bye. The cats lack of speed flattered them Even if they go on to win, it will be fascinating to see if the pies can really run out this game the way we have been in the last three games. The pies do not want anymore injuries that's for sure.

That's the entire area isn't it DZ ie all level 4 is GA. If so that's brilliant - for me. That's where I want to sit. And I have a GA ticket. But it means they will be lucky to get 55k to the game.

Could care less who wins this game. Seen enough. Even if pies win, they are looking all over the shop defensively. What I want to see is huge contest after huge contest. Lot's of big hits from the cat's dad's army. Let's see how they go next Friday night against the lions, who will be looking to smash them in the contest. And what was that from BT - they're like mushroom, they're coming alive!!! The week three people die from toxic mushrooms!

Agree. Very hard to win at the gabba. But the crows will give it a shake, it's an elimination final for them and they have a pretty good defensive system.

In their loss to the blues they were coming off a six day break after their epic against Port. It's worth remembering that port got hammered by the crows, and also looked flat as a tack, after their loss to the pies.

Doesnt sound right. Closed for now perhaps They sell tix in blocks, which is very frustrating. I assume it's so they don't open an area like top of the ponsford if they don't have to coz otherwise they have to staff it. But it forces people to buy tix in an area they don't nessarily want to sit in. It was the same deal for the tigers game I'm going as a GA, as I did for the tigers game. Got a perfect seat top of the Ponsford down near the bottom of it. I read earlier in this thread from fear the beard they are expecting 70k. If they haven't yet opened the top of the Ponsford for tix (which I hope they haven't) my guess would be 70k is unlikely. You'd have to think the excepted rain and the clash with the matlidas game will keep it to aprox 55-60k

Good pick up TU Hadn't noticed, but it's def a thing when you hear the repetition of a particular theme in the lead up to a game, particulay big ones - like a dees mantra.

I'm going to go and will keep a close eye on tmac.