binman

Which is why I don't bet on dees games.

'Tis the season for funky results.

The roos' pressure and contest has been good, but they lack the fitness to maintain it for four quarters. I doubt we'll be fully wound up, but the roos are coming of a six day break and we're coming off a bye. I think the roos will either come out flat, or come up out with good intensity but fade. Dees by 43 points.

Roll up, Roll up to the Can't Win Demonland Cup. Lose and all the doom spiral predictions are proven correct. Win by anything less than 124 points and all the doom spiral predictions are proven correct.

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With his selection decisions, Goody's a maverick.

That's better. $50 - the 2021 didn't actually happen; like the moon landing it was staged

Very brave punting right there - a thousand hypothetical dollars. Why not a million! Which, by the by, is why the betting market is a more reliable measure of probable outcomes than tips and predictions by media or fans. Punyers putting their hard earned money where their mouth is. Real money. We are currently $1.17 to beat the roos. Of course those odds do not imply a 100% probability of winning ($1.00 = 100% probability). And of course, we might lose. We were a similar price against the Eagles for example. But the bookies, who are not keen on losing money and minimise the risk of doing so by being good at pricing probability, set a very short opening price and the market (ie punters) agree with that assessment, hence the current price (by the by I expect that price to drift to something like 1.25 or 1.30, so roos are pretty good value atm. The 32 point line is even better value).

Way too long

$4.00

As a keen punter, I offer the following market: $1.22 - Goody's future $1.80 - hopeless list $2.00 - hopeless recruiting team $2.20 - Kate Roffey $2.50 - kulture $2.80 - midfield $3.00 - Maxy: does his brilliance actually hurt us. $3.20 - loading: should we do more? $3.50 - Pert $4.00 - time to trade tracc, maxy and Oliver for picks and go full rebuild mode

INCORRECT, we are the oldest professional football club in the world. 168 years old. And we'll be around for another 168 years - long after we are all forgotten. A proud club, with a proud history, with players who have given their all, even in the many barren years. A proud club that deserves respect- least of all from supposed supporters. I've had it up to here with posters on this forum taking every opportunity to slag off the mighty dees.

And I'd add, why should she say anything? Presidents make statements when there is a crisis. However much the handwringers and media flunkeys would like us to think, a stretch of poor form does not equate to a crisis. I don't hear any noise about the cats wretched form. I'd prefer the president not buy into the fugazi

It may not be a perfect solution WCW but I have found it to be a pretty effective one. I have been kicking around DL for ages. For a big chunk of that time I got in any number of back and forths with people who views really got me wound up (as opposed to posters who i disagreed with on many things but who I enjoyed the banter - Pro dee for example). But I realised it was a dead end, so put them on ignore. I don't have many people on ignore, but it works. There are also posters who views i diametrically disagree with, which is fine, but I feel like they post to get people riled up. I have got better at just skimming and only occasionally responding, so no need to put on ignore. The key for me is not biting when someone posts something provocative. Well, not biting all the time to be more accurate. And then there are posters who I just disagree with about specific footy stuff but we both end up repeating the same arguments, which becomes tiresome for other posters. And I now do my best to stay clear of non footy stuff. I've found the combination of the strategies above have worked well for me and improved my demonland experience (that and avoiding the game day thread during games!).

Yep. Unfortunately same goes for petty, McAdam, BBB and possibly tmac (I say possibly because tmac has looked in remarkably good nick given he had an interrupted preseason).

People talk about the power of AI, but it has a long way to go.

Text book 50

Ok. A serous question. If we win next will you give us credit for the victory. Or will you downplay the win because 'it's only the roos'?

And Gerard Healy

Three months is a lifetime ago? Ok. Lets agree it is. And therefore our spanking of the dogs has no current relevance. Then by the same logic September is also a lifetime away. And if our win over the dogs has no relevance then neither does our loss to freo in terms of our chances come finals.

I backed over the tmp of 165 in this match. It's a chance of being covered by the 3qt. Love it.

The dogs? You mean the team we beat by 8 goals?

I feel sick.

No, not at all (too concerned with the w/lost column). I have consistently said from the beginning of the season that by design we won't be playing our best footy till August. Which is why i have also said, echoing Daniel Hoyne's comments, we need to wear some losses and poor performances. I have also consistently said we will revert to our traditional goody game plan come finals (hopefully with improvements to our turnover game - a process that by the by began ladt year). That model is built for finals. Every single finals team will use a variation of it. It's why the hawks are focusing on contest and pressure this year whereas last year it was all about fast transition from the back half footy. I have also said I think there is the possibility our evident lack of fitness is also by design (ie ramp up at the end). Given I believe all of that, and have all season, is it any wonder i remain bullish? I mean of course I would have hoped we didn't get rolled by the eagled and thrashed by the dockers (the pies loss was disappointing too of course, but more because of those previous losses - the pies favourites to win, we played better than scoreboard indicated as evidenced by the fact the x score had us losing by 4 points). But otherwise, we are tracking only a bit worse than I thought we would be at this stage of the season. Goody is a student of history. Speaking of Daniel Hoyne, after round 10 he said of the swans (I think this is right) that there had been 8 previous times a team was on top of the ladder more than 20% clear of second (and iirc 8 points too?). And only once had that team gone on to win the flag - the hawks in 2013. And of course it could just be a coincidence, but it also may not be, that at this point in the season last year the swans, giants and blues were 13th, 14th and 15th. And of course it could be a coincidence, but it also may not be, that two teams currently in the 8 - the cats and giants- have both lost four of their last four games. Or that the pies lost their first 3 games.

It would be well and truly good enough for me too. It's also what I expect will happen.