binman

Yep. Remind me luci what draft pick did we get for nibbla?

Not good enough?

Allegedly. Not having a shot at you but it does my head in how in 2025 we collectively seem to have lost the ability to question the veracity of information that finds its way onto the internet, and even more concerningly seem to always rush to conclusions. I mean whatever happened to just taking a beat until all the information comes out before assuming something is factual.

That game is the one pictured (i think it came out in the early 70s). Pretty boring to be honest - but awesome, albeit somewhat misleading, picture on the front of the box.

No. But what a brilliant game that was - as crazy cricket nuffy i had that game and played it all the time. It was only way i could ever hit cricket ball though the V. And jeez my field setting was elite. Funnily enough a mate gave me the game in the picture above for my birthday last year.

Not keen on an argument, suffice to say both of these assertions completely fail the Occam's razor test.

It's funny - based on this thread that petition is just as likely to have been created by a Dees fan as a Crows supporter!

This.

Spot on. As I've previously noted its a total win win situation for us.

He is indeed. But unfortunately, he plays a bit pretty too i reckon. By that i mean whilst we are in desperate need of a player with his kicking skills i have question mark over his intensity and contest work. Not every player needs to be contest beast, and perhaps I'm being unfair, but i feel like he picks and chooses a bit and i'm of the view that few players that are not instinctively hard at it ever really address that issue.

Jesus H Christ I would. I don't want that racist [censored] anywhere near my club. The dees have done a power of work in recent years to make the club more culturally safe foe Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islands people. We needed to as we were coming from a long way back - but are now leaders in this space. We were one of the first clubs to do a Reconciliation Action Plan (RAP) and are now onto our second iteration/stage of the RAP process (there are 3 levels of RAPs). We were the first club to use our traditional name for the area we represent - Naarm. Other clubs have followed as have organisations across the community. And i think we were the first club to create an indigenous jumper for Sir Doug Nichols round. We have also made meaningful connections with the Aboriginal community in the Alice and NT. By all accounts Wheels is doing a great job supporting our Aboriginal players. And we have supported our Aboriginal players to remain connected to family and country. There is zero doubt in my mind that a big factor in Koz sticking with us and signing a long-term contract is because of the club's commitment to cultural safety. The very last thing we want, or need, is Walker at our club.

Is this a serious post jnr?

Um Billy, i was being sarcastic. Players drive culture - good and bad.

binman: only a true crackpot would deny being a crackpot adonski: ok, i am a crackpot binman: he is a crackpot, he is crackpot! (PS - please land on anew avatar - I'm getting confused)

Agree. If Tracc wants to leave that is 100% on the club. The players bear no responsibility for the culture of the club. They are passive observers.

Ta. We need at least one or two more players who can regularly hit those really high risks (by the by I'm hopeful XL wil develop into one such player), particularly if we do end up losing McVeee, but players who can reliably hit those 30 metre kicks are even more critical i reckon. Games are won and lost on turnover these days and missing those sorts of kicks has a double impact - the oppo win the ball back and are often gifted a scoring opportunity, but as significant, perhaps more so, a potential scoring chain is broken.

He could quit footy.

In the Sun's games I've watched Flanders seem to be a pretty good kick but when watching other teams it's easy to over rate kicking skills as the (inevitable) turnovers don't stand out as much as when watching the dees. Do any keen watchers of the Suns have an informed view of Flander's kicking skills?

Disappointing it looks like he might be going. That said, whilst I agree his best position is a half back that pushes up the ground I'm not a big fan of the 'i want to play more in x role' seemingly being part of his rationale for staying and leaving. For one thing circumstances, in particular AMW going down, meant that wasn't the best thing for the team last season. So shut it. But leaving that aside it just screams me, me, me. Someone who is 100% team first doesn't make it a thing. And besides, that position is no picnic, and given there is usually only one such player, two tops, in any team that player has to excel. Now, he may well have done so at the dees, he has the tools, but it's not as if he has runs on the board in that role to back up his confidence or make demands of the club. And I'll be fascinated, assuming he actually gets to Freo, if he even gets an opportunity to play that role as Freo have more options than us.

I have been saying this for years, and using the lions as the exemplar - teams need mutiple goal kicking medium mid/forwards, forward/mids and wing/half backs who can push forward and be a threat (eg dempsey, ah chee). Icing on the cake if they are also good over head Two such players ain't gonna cut it, let alone one. Just look how man such players the lions have - McCluggage, Raynor, Bailey, Berry, Ah Chee, Lohmann, Zorko and Wilmont. And that's not even counting smalls like Cameron, as he's a permanent forward (though does push up when not in the game) or more pure mids like Fletcher, Ashcroft x 2 and Neale, all of whom kick their share of goals. To illustrate the importance to lions of such players, if you include the latter group (ie Cameron, Fletcher etc etc) 17 of their 18 goals were kicked by small/mediums (the outlier was Morris' late goal).

Was just about to post the same. Given how potent each team are and how good the weather was, save the tricky wind, the total match point line was a very low 177 points. They blew past that, albeit late, and the TMP ended up being 197. So, a very high scoring game. But despite both teams having gun tall forwards, kpfs scored bugger all and had barely impact on the game. Worth keeping in mind when the drum starts beating on us needing to bring in a gun key forward.

I wondered if that nasty gastro bug ad hir again. Geez the cats are dead unlucky.

Agree on Wotherspoon - high footy iq and I love her kicking action. Strong over the ball too, which is important because that's the area north have tge edge on us. Generally i really like the coverage of the AFLW, on fox and 7. Compared to AFLM, less hype, less volume, Kessler rubbish inane banter and more focus on the game in front of them. Most of all the special comments people are, like the AFLM, are ex players but very much unlike the AFLM, their knowledge is current and they use that knowledge to bring genuinely interesting and informative insights. I don't think it's a coincidence that the majority of the commentatory crews are women

We need outside players, so a Flanderst trad swap would be advantageous from that perspective - one less midfield bull with average foot skills (albeit a star) and one more outsidish player (though he can win his own ball) with decent foot skills.