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Nup. Forgot about it to be honest. An all time favorite gig of mine was seeing Social Youth, supported by Bored, at the Colendena Hotel in Torquay Only about 200 people there. Just a crazy good gig.

From Madonna's official website: HOLIDAY TO BE SAMPLED BY THE AVALANCHES March 30, 2001 According NME, Madonna's 17 year old classic 1980's Hit single Holiday is to appear on a new album by The Avalanches. Now, the classic celebration of life hit single will soon be sampled in an instrumental version on the album track Stay Another Season. A spokesman for The Avalanches said, When Madonna went into her office with the new CD, she listened to it and then said the band could use the sample. They never expected to use it but they were really pleased she let them do it. The new album by The Avalanches called Since I left You will be on sale in music stores everywhere on April 15th.

Sick burn bro

Totally agree. I reckon it's certainly the most influential in terms of its impact on music internationally. DJ shadow's endtroducing and since i left you changed the use of sampling from hooks and background effects in dance tracks and hip hop to being an instrument in its own right. Both stand up still too. Fun fact - Madonna has never approved one of her songs being sampled, until allowing avalanches to sample holiday on that album. Which was crazy because at the time avalanches weren't even.a thing. Just some unknown guys Australia recording an.album that at the time had no applicable genre I think ink I'm right in saying it's still the only sample Madonna has approved. Avalanches recent music is awesome too by the by.

It's also quite fun watching self styled iconoclasts unable to resist the need to make such comments. 'oh you silly fan boys you are all so silly taking the bait. It doesnt bother me of course that you do, but i'm a rugged individual above such ridiculousness and I find you all so funny' I mean, seriously, other people critising cornes rings your bell so much you feel the need to post about your discomfort (dressed up as derision)? You seemingly have no insight into the irony and contradiction at work here.

The footy media is a complete joke. As is the coverage of games. Those two things intersected on Saturday night. It was a text book example of woeful coverage and how the paper thin standard of 'reporting' leads to misinformation - misinformation skewed to make people, in this case clarry, look bad and gin up some faux controversy. I couldn't make the game because I was sick, so had to watch the game on TV. At the start of the second quarter Ling proclaims that clarry only had one possession and said he thinks (but implied he did) Goody gave clarry a bake at quarter time and challenged him to lift. That gets repeated through the coverage and morphs into a statement of fact. Clarry gets going and the implication is he is responding positively to the bake. Straight after the game Rivers is interviewed and is asked about the bake Goody gave clarry at quarter time. Riv looks genuinely perplexed and says hw didn't realise goody had given clarry a bake, and talked abour how hard clarry worked. Given Rivers is actually in the quarter time huddle you'd think he know if goody got stuck into clarry. It's not 'till next day that I learn on demonland that clarry had spent a big part of the first quarter on the bench, seemingly as part of a successful strategy to help ensure he runs out the game. Did anyone bother to check his minutes on the bench, data they actually include in the coverage? So clarry not given a bake, nor challenged to lift and not responding to that challenge when he racks up 25 odd disposals in the next 3 quarters. His game wasn't part of some peurile redemption, heroes and villans narrative the football media is obsessed with. The losers in this patethetic high school patomine? Clarry gets another wack from the media - he's miles off it, and needs a boot up the bum to get going. Goody gets no credit for the clever use of clarry to maximise his impact when the whips are cracking in the last quarter (noting we have struggled to run out games). But most of all football fans who are fed bulltish and treated like fools.

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Good question. Yes, is the short answer. Using the theory the first third of the season gives us a more accurate read of form than the middle third, this was the ladder after round 8 (Note: we had a much tougher fixture and schedule than Freo. And it's also worth noting like us they also lost to west coast - but it was round six so mid season loads not a factor)

And like you, I'm happy for mcvee to stay at half back. One, he really is a brilliant defender. He reads the ball super well, backs himself in to beat his opponent to the ball, really good one on one and is surprisingly strong in the contest. But perhaps of most importance is how important his brilliant kicking is out of defence, one because it creates scoring chains but also he doesn't turn the ball over in our back half. Moving daicos on ball has hurt the pies I reckon. He is brilliant in the middle of course, but they have sorely missed his kicking out of defence and how calm he was in the back half. Def one of the factors as in their turnover, transition game falling of a cliff. Mcvee is our daicos. Use AMW as the lock down small defender, freeing Judd to be a dangerous high half back flankers.

TJ is a great comparison in terms of how he moves and his ball use. I reckon mcvee is a bit more hard at it than TJ. Judd's baby face belies his toughness.

That's the biggest load of old cobblers I've ever read. But illuminating - the penny has just dropped. Couldn't stay away huh? That's funny. Timing's right. Pop up when we start losing. Alas, like clock work the good form and wins return. So I guess you be leaving soon. In the meantime, see ya.

By the by, credit where it is due. Goody has embraced the transition model you discussed way back 2022. And iirc you also were strong on the physical challenge of the model we used week in week out - which I think is arguably the biggest factor in our changed method - keep the troops fresher for finals and not so banged up.

I hear what you are saying rp, but one of my major frustrations about the discussion is what I see as a complete myth that it was a 'binary fascination' and that those who were wanting to discuss were implying it was the only factor. People such as myself, and several others I could point to, have been at pains to clarify that it not an excuse and there are any number of other factors in the mix (for example tactics, method, psychology, form et etc) And besides such voices were, and remain, decidedly in the minority so were hardly shutting down conversation about the topics you note. But I do agree the discussion became tedious, and I am as much to blame for that ss anyone, so I'll go back to not discussing it.

It fits our form line for the fourth year in a row. When I first started discussing load management in 2021 it's fair to say I copped a fair bit. What's crazy is ive copped it every year since - so much so that I barely raise it anymore because I can't be bothered getting pilloried. (It's ironic actually because many of the posters lampooning and shutting down such conversations complain any criticisms of the club they make are policed and shut down - cue the face palm and vomit emojis) Crazy because you would have to actively ignore the evidence to be so wilfully ignorant. I recall mutiple posters, even in the face of iffrefutable evidence, say they won't believe loading happens (which morphed for many into, maybe a factor but.....) until a coach or ex player comes out and says it happens. Ok, well it's starting now to be discussed by such people. Good to hear Cameron Ling come out and discuss it. Del Santo alluded to it on the ABC in the early part of the season, saying it's all about playing your best footy in August and using the tapering for the olympics as an ananlogy Hopefully next season the discussion about high performance programs and load management can move from being a 'dirty word', or a running Demonland joke, to a nuanced discussion that factors in load management into the analysis of our performances. And as I've noted it might also open up discussions like the different high performance philosophies (manage and rotate, no rotation, squads, play through niggles etc) and an analysis of our high performance program. One benefit would be less of the hair on fire, the sky is falling, play the kids, we are a joke, sack goody, it's all about 2025 etc etc that dominates Demonland for a couple of months in the middle of every season. I mean, sure I skew positive, but some of the takes on where we were at coming into the bye, and even after our WIN against the Roos, have already proved to be utterly ridiculous - even if we don’t go on to push for a flag. Silly, vibes based, emotive stuff - but barely commented on, let alone anyone getting called on it Yet I make any reference to the impact of load management on performances like our last game against freo, and i'm ridiculed, with the subtext being, please no mote talk about loading - effectively shutting the conversation down.

Aka Skinner- Bell.

Disagree. Smash them off the park with high intensity pressure and contest. Do what we did against the bombers after the first quarter and: really press up on them to deny them time and space work super hard to cover their switches to make sure they can't play on and have to hold it up anticipate their handball chains and press up hard on likely receivers and smash them suffocate and discombobulate them Force turnovers and make them pay Easy week on the track into the Giants game and go again.

It's not really a theory as such.

As a generalisation, the form of teams in the weeks leading into their bye, and in the one or two weeks after their bye should be ignored. As a footy punter it is a treacherous period and I tread warily. But it does throw up some real value as many punters think of form in terms of week to week performances or blocks of 2 games. So port are great value against the Dogs because in their previous 2 games they got absolutely thrashed by the lions and scrapped in against the saints. And so are terrific value at the line at home against the dogs, who had been in good form. Port thrash the dogs and so people jump off the dogs and they are therefore great value at the line against the blues. But we are now passed that phase and form is now more trustworthy. The way to think about this game is not how we played last time we met the dockers but what our best football looks like versus their best football. The same can be applied to all matches from here on in. The first 6-7 rounds give the best guide, injuries notwithstanding. As I've noted, I don't bet on dees games, but if I did I would launched into us at the line against the bombers because our best football is better than that of the bombers.

And backing up week after week as a big marking target at AFL level.

The sad thing is I'm pretty confident there was almost exactly the same post in the DL game day thread.

Agree we got away with a couple in tge first. I'd be ropeable if I was a bombers fan with that non mark straight in front. A mark every day of tge week. It was crucial too because they were on top and really needed to take advantage of the momentum when they had it. Game would have looked different if they had a 3 goal lead at quarter time instead of one point.

Yes we had Omac and some other guns, but it is patently absurd to suggest out 2019 list was the best in the AFL. I don't mean to knock these blokes but we had the following fringe players in and round our best 22: Vanderburg, Weed, Jay Kennedy Harris, Hore, Oskar Baker, Corey Wagner, Jay Lockhadrt, Frosty, Billy Stretch - not mention players like Kade Kolodjashnij and Aaron Nietschke who couldn't get on the park) for the sake of argument lets say you are right. You may also recall that we had a horror run with injury in 2019 and went into full experimental mode early on - playing Fritter at half and developing the Goodwin contest territory game for example. But for the sake of argument lets run with your opinion we had the best list for five seasons (i'm assuming your posting history reflects this opinion). Strength of the list is absolutely a key factor in the chances of winning a flag. But injury and luck are arguably even more important. Given that, every single club would take one flag from five. Anyway cranky, i'm really not sure why I'm bothering responding to your silliness. I will go back to just reading your random troll bites and having a quiet chuckle. Keep doing you.

Some clubs absolutely do exactly that ie manage players, particularly older players - Geelong being the best example. The cats have done so in earnest since their premiership season. All their older players are rotated and managed. Burgess and Griffith seemingly have a different philosophy, and play the same core of players through the fatigue. Though goody did mention a few weeks ago they planned to rest maxy if they were in a position to do so. Funnily enough the decision had been taken out of their hands. It's worth noting that even if they did manage a senior player tbat player would still have to a full match load on top of normal training to ensure they maintained the right levels.

For sure, partic goals from turnover I'm not so sure we did run out of gas. Well maybe a bit (though not the to the same degree as against tjhe liuns and roos) - which i think we just have to accept with such a young team. And i was amazed the so called experts didn't point out that we were off a six day break to their 8 - Melk sure did in a post match interview when asked about recovering from his first game back after 12 months. I reckon we lost momentum with those two quick goals and couldn't get it back. The umpiring handed the bombers that momentum. I was quietly pleased we didn't give up any more goals.