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I would say that most of the playing group put in yesterday, but it seems that our young and virtually untried players, should be better than the Suns' young and virtually untried players purely because the Suns are the new kids on the block. It seems to be quickly forgotten that the Suns had a number of top 10 draft picks as well as a few seasoned/hardened players such as Ablett and Brennan (who is playing the best and most consistent football of his career at the moment). Of course they were bound to improve over the season and the fact that we beat them by just five goals is probably less of a reflection on our effort than it is a reflection of their inevitable improvement. But if you like, I can tweet a few players and request that they send you a personal apology? ;-)

6 . Blease 5 . Jones 4 . Garland 3 . Bennell 2 . Green 1 . Trengove

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Yep, it seems you are not alone in that regard.

Spot on!

My nose is hardly "out of joint". You might be surprised just how well regarded Bate, Dunn and Warnock are outside (particularly Bate and Dunn). I would say that Petterd is definitely necessary depth... tell me who you consider to be currently good forward line depth at the club? Most of our forwards have gone missing, so why single out Petterd? Why not suggest Jurrah?... he would have far more currency and he has some major flaws in his game... does X factor cut it and make him an untouchable? And not just forwards...what about Davey? What about Sylvia? What about Rivers? What about Moloney? All of these players have more currency than Petterd and all of them go missing from time to time and usually when they are needed most. Maybe you weren't concerned about the possibility of Petterd going to the GC, but I can assure you that many were... just go back through the forums.

Well, first the trade Jones thread and now another pointless thread suggesting Petterd be offered up just one season after we were all wringing our hands and fretting over the possibility he could end up at the Gold Coast - regardless of what any one of us might think, I somehow doubt the club will be keeping an eye on this thread to get a feel for what they should do during trade week. The old gotta give to get. Well, yes... but at the same time, you do not shoot yourself in the foot by giving away quality in an area where depth is necessary. If (and in my opinion it is a big "IF") Scully goes, and I assume we will know before trade week, then we have a couple of high picks we can use as leverage in trade deals using players like Dunn, Bate and Warnock who have some currency but need a sweetener to swing a possible deal.

Tweeted earlier by DemonsHQ: DemonsHQ Melbourne FC Club great Robbie Flower will be a special panel member on @Marngrook tonight at 7.30pm on ABC2.

Laughable to consider trading Jones, full-stop!

Semantics :-) However, we could find that the knee issue may have reduced his currency at GWS, so my wording may yet prove to be accurate.

Scully will be paid whatever the club think it is worth paying him to remain at the club; nothing that you or I or anyone else say matters. And for what it's worth, it was reported some time ago on AFL360 that Mark Robinson (I think it was) put the question to Trengove (informally - off camera) re whether large discrepancies between TS and the rest of the playing group would create divisions/disharmony, and the answer was "no"... they have no issue with it.

Now this thread is a real surprise... not!! Demonland posters having Green with one foot out the door and off down the road. If my memory serves me well (and it occasionally does), Green was adamant he would be a one club player and I am pretty sure that the Dees will be doing all in their power to ensure that that is the case; we are already very thin on the ground when it comes to experienced/mature players. I think you will find that Green will be relieved of the Captaincy (more than likely with his own blessing) and that he will be offered a fair and reasonable contract (to compensate) that will see him play out his career at the Dees. It is obvious to even Blind Freddy and his dog that the Captaincy has had a big affect on his game, on the back of one of his best seasons in 2010; without the burden next year, he will quickly regain his mojo.

Have you been spying on me?

Yeah, just like me and my identical twin brother who is three years older than me :-)

To a point you are correct... there are a lot who have given up worrying about his final decision, but equally, there are many now who consider his departure a "fait accomplis" and are starting to post some unnecessarily venomous and vindictive comments based on nothing but hearsay and innuendo, but very little in the way of fact.

6 Sylvia 5 Jones 4 Frawley 3 Bennell 2 Jamar 1 Blease Jones and Sylvia were all class today. The funny thing is that Jones is in our top 5 players almost every week (including games against the top teams), yet there are so many here who are only too eager to focus on his errors and overlook his workrate and assists. The fact of the matter is, Jones is probably now either 1 or 2 in the race for the Bluey.

Ok, now I get it... women are fair game; testosterone rules!

Then that's fine. As long as you are consistent I have no problem :-)

Another who seems to know exactly what was said... can one of you better informed posters, please enlighten the rest of us.

Would you apply that same "penalty" to Sherman?

For what exactly - we don't know what was said? How do you feel about racial vilification? Should the stamping out of vilification of women be treated as any less important (well in fact it is, as Sherman got 4 weeks for racial vilification)?

So you know the full story do you? How about waiting until the circumstances are out there. I get the feeling there is much more to this as it would be extremely unlikely that a player would get fired up like Ricky did over something as tame as a "mother" joke. I recall in the NRL here in Sydney years ago, Mario Fenech, then playing for South Sydney Rabbitohs, suddenly burst out of a scrum and started hammering Balmain's Benny Elias (I think it was)... turns out that Benny had bee niggling with "hey Mario, zzzzzt, zzzzzt". Pretty harmless you would think, except for one minor fact - Mario had lost his brother through electrocution.

I thought it was interesting that players were named as having "stood up" (Tapscott, Trengove and Gawn) - maybe I'm reading too much into it, but could that be a thinly veiled message to a couple of players?

The "romantic" in me likes that notion too RR, as being a child of the early 50's, I grew up in the era of club loyalty and non-professional footballers; but the realist in me understands that the AFL has ensured that loyalty is a thing of the past unless a club is fortunate enough to retain a player long enough for that flame to ignite. My gut feeling is still that TS will stay, but if he doesn't, then I understand his reasons perfectly and will feel no malice toward him... just toward the system that allowed this situation to occur.

But what if he manages to keep it all together, has a 50+ goal season effectively getting us into the finals where the younger players can gain invaluable experience of finals footy pressure that will stand them in good stead when we make a real push for the top 4 (Fev or no Fev). In the meantime, Cook and Fitzy become the main focus in the forward line at Casey where they can develop their games and be ready to take over where the Fev leaves off. Yes, it's probably a big risk, but isn't that what footy is all about?