The Chazz

I'll be there. Didn't buy our tickets though (had them given to us), but when we did look at buying them, they were about $50 each and not many left. If you do get along, be careful. Their supporters are great when things are going their way, but if we get on top of them, they do have the tendency of getting fairly agressive.

In some ways I agree as I don't really rate Geelong. That said, they are always tough to beat down there regardless of how they are playing (especially for us). Adelaide are gathering momentum, so playing them there is going to be tough. West Coast, who will be playing finals, will be difficult. With Nik Nat going down it will definitely help. I never dismiss Sydney against us (in this era). They will play finals again, which, even at the MCG, is always a daunting task. I hope Buddy is rested! And lastly, the Giants. Can't see them missing out on finals, especially with many of their top players back by then. They will be extremely tough. My hope is that we beat Geelong this weekend, giving the players the belief of 'any one, any where'.

Might just take us beating Geelong this week to get a couple of scalps on the run home. Will give our players great belief.

So not on the full? Thanks.

Can you post the out on the full you speak of? Until then, I will seriously question your eyesight and your understanding of the game in its entirety. Will be happy to apologize if you can prove me wrong, but I don't think I will need to. How you can get this so wrong questions why I bother reading what you write.

No ping pong balls this year, or do they fall under the "interpretive dance" section?

In what way?

In no way can I see OMc being trade bait, and I'd highly doubt Brayshaw would be either.

Not surprised about Harmes' extension. Fairly surprised about Wagner's, but clearly/obviously the FD see more than I do... http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-07-05/harmes-and-wagner-sign-new-contracts

Didn't see enough of Matthews to form a view. I'm interested to know though, are they are a comparable pair?

We have been playing our best footy, and getting our best results, when our "bottom 6" play well. So with that in mind, and other than the obvious improvement from the likes of Jones, Lewis and Hogan, we desperately need the likes of ANB, Hannan, Tyson and Fritta to keep raising their game. It's a team thing. Our top players can't wait for the bottom players to lift before they can improve, but equally, the bottom players can't wait for the top players to improve before they can. They all need to be on the same page, and take forward steps at the same time.

Do you share those ones?

Hurrah did things on the footy field that none before him have ever done, and I'd be horribly surprised if any in the future do. We have been fortunate to have both Farmer and Flash play for our side. Rioli is a combination of The Wiz's most special traits, as well as Flash's most special ones. All three were beauties in their own right, but Rioli is by far the best of the three.

Apologies DC, Ethan's sums were correct. When it's all said and done, we are splitting hairs over around .25 goals per game. Yep, that's 1 goal more every 4 games (if my maths is right this time!).

Just a quick look, Wiz's first 180 games saw his goal average go down to 1.75 per game. His time at Freo wasn't as drastic as you speak of. His 2007 season was poor (only played 8 games, but still managed 19 goals), but he came back to play 20 games in 2008.

DC, if you are going to play those games, then do we go back to when Rioli wasn't being hampered by knee and hamstring injuries?

Does it break the hearts of Sydney supporters to see Ben Mathews at our club? Geelong supporters to see Max Rooke with us? North supporters to see Longmire coaching Sydney? Was Green not captain of our club for 186? I prefer to not have anyone that was associated with our club back then anywhere near our club nowadays. I'm amazed at how many of our supporters love a good fairytale.

Yes you did, and still do. ?

Wiz had to. Rioli had two key forwards (Buddy, Roughy) that were consistently kicking over 50 goals a season, and Breust was kicking over 40 a season too. The fact he kicked as many as he did was a bloody good effort. But using career goals as your sole criteria to determine how good a small forward is/was will always see a discrepancy with reality. I can't help you any further sorry Ethan.

Please. The Wiz is my favourite Demon of all time, but he was nowhere near as consistent as Rioli. Compare the pair; Rioli: 189 games, 15.1disp ave, 1.5goals, 4.6tackles. 275 goals total Wiz: 249 games, 11.5disp ave, 1.94goals, 1.6tackles, 483 goals total If you want to use the "goals per game" stat in your argument, why not look at Milne.

Let this be repeated again; 4 flags, 3 All Australians, 1 Norm Smith. He will, and deserves to be, inducted in to the AFL Hall of Fame in due course. And to use the "Jeffy averages more goals per game" argument, it's laughable. Who was Jeffy competing with in terms of other goal scorers? Cyril didn't need to kick bulk goals - he had Franklin and Roughead, and to a lesser extent, Bruce and Gunston to compete against. It wouldn't have been the easiest position to play in that team (in terms of scoring mass goals), yet he made the most of the scoring opportunities he got. His great strength was his forward pressure - a career average of 4.6 tackles per game is quite amazing in a 189 career - to create greater opportunities for his team. He was also strong overhead. I don't froth over him like Bruce, et al, but if you don't think he's been a star, then you are either biased, uneducated, or just plain ignorant. I'd love to know who is or has been a better small forward than him. I can't think of any in my time, but while Im older than many on here, there's also a community that I'm nowhere near!

Cyril is/was a star. Petracca is severely overrated.

Let's not forget the playing of Oliver, even though he had an operation on his hand earlier that same week. As well as Lewis and Salem coming back after a week off from hand/thumb surgery. As a side note with the Oliver situation, in particular how they said he missed his flight. Was the club taking the pi$$ with the excuse of the collectors not being able to take the pi$$?

I think it's a catch 22 with Lewis. When the team plays well, he's definitely worth his spot in the team. The awareness/maturity of that last goal he kicked on Sunday - he knew time was flying by, he knew he had to take the kick as quickly as possible to give us the best chance of winning the game. A very, very basic thing, but many players would've gone back and taken a lot longer to kick it. You can't teach that. That's one example of one moment within a game that his experience is needed in our team. On the flip side, the problem with him is that what he brings to the team (which as I said above, is at its best when the whole team is playing well), our players are most likely looking up to hm to start. He is a leader of the club, and the younger guys need him (and a couple of others) to lead them out of in-game slumps. But I feel that Jordan is of more value when the team is out of the in-game slump. I do think he needs to be more consistent, which I'm sure he still has in him. It's a lot easier for kids to listen to him barking instructions when it's clear he is practicing what he is preaching. When they see he isn't, that's when his best quality for us becomes a concern.

So, his season has been "shithouse", because you are questioning if he has ever chased hard, laid a decent tackle, or if he works hard enough? I'm all for everyone having their own opinion, but I think yours is pretty terrible in this instance.