Adam The God

Viney also drafted Toumpas over Wines. That was the correct decision. You are contradicting yourself here though, 316.

Spot on, rjay.

I agree that he's not the D grader he's showing at the moment, but his disposal seriously needs some inspection, otherwise he won't ever make B grade. Yeah, the #31 stuff is rubbish.

Top post as usual, PSD.

Come on, mate. Grimes has never been awesome and certainly not this year. His kicking has never been good and his decision making consistently leads to him coughing up the ball. He's a plodder, who's been overrated from the beginning. I love that he's a Melbourne man. I love the leadership qualities he apparently has, but from very early on, it was obvious that his disposal was well below elite.

Well, he's clearly moved down the pecking order at the Hawks and the contract we should offer him would expire in 2016, so the extra year. He wouldn't be on as much as we could offer him either. Go hard, FD.

Sewell is a real chance. I think we should be throwing the house at Sydney's Kennedy. Martin is struggling to get his own game to a consistent level, let alone guiding other players. That said, I'd probably take Martin, but it would depend on the cost.

No. We need players that can win their own ball. Sewell can still do this. He would walk into our midfield every week, even next year. Offer him a big three year contract. The leadership he would provide our young mids (those already there and those no doubt coming in) would be invaluable.

This is exactly what I've been saying, TU. Completely agree. Grimes is lucky if he's a C grader and I reckon we should be trading Howe, while he still has perceived value.

Stop looking to the past and live in the present. Surely you've learnt that from the Schwab debacle? PJ has come in and said enough of that rubbish. Have respect for the past, but we have to move forward.

Well, that and competent coaching staff.

I agree with those that are saying take Boyd and trade your way to experienced mids. I simply can't see us being able to get the same value in return. You then have the next two picks to take say Aish and then Sheed at the end of the first round. I'm still for trading Howe too if we could land an experienced B grade mid. Go hard in the trade and FA period too. Sewell has to be on our shopping list. He would offer Jones a bit of a chop out, not to mention some guidance to the rest of our young mids.

Gotta keep Watts unless Carlton offered us Marc Murphy. It's not gonna happen. He will be a damaging player with confidence and good players around him. Pretty much agree on the rest though, minus perhaps Rawlings and Spencer.

He's never been able to kick a football though, Chook. He was a turnover king in previous years and now he struggles to find the ball. When he gets a pre season into him, he'll be able to find more of the ball, but he'll still turn it over by foot and hand.

And who turns it over to give Cameron the sealer? That heart and soul player in Grimes. The question must be asked. What does Grimes offer us?

There we go. That's the difference between Trengove and Grimes. Grimes cannot kick a football. One kicks a captain's goal, the other misses without any pressure.

I am going to go back on the Kent comment though. Easily his best game. Cannot kick from a set shot though.

I'm sticking to my guns here. Trengove's been good. Get off his back.

I flicked it over to the Richmond game and I turn it back and I've missed the first two minutes. In this time GWS have kicked two. What the hell happened?

I reckon Trengove's been alright. Apparently I'm alone there.

Agreed. He had a good quarter, but his disposal and decision making is a worry for mine.

Well, that'd be right wouldn't it. I call for him to be delisted and then he gets it twice.

Delist Dean Kent. What a joke.

Trengove and Jones, perhaps Viney as well are the only three that would get a pass mark today. The rest have been absolutely useless.

Totally with you, Jaded. There have been times this year when I've been thoroughly apathetic towards the result. Today I feel like punching walls and yelling at people. This is fcuking pathetic performance. Further, kicking it long to Gawn or Fitzpatrick as a plan A with no plan B is not going to work, Craig.