Adam The God

They're past the point of no return a lot of these blokes. Much like a lot of our blokes who have moved to other environments (Blease, Sylvia, Moloney, Morton etc) and failed. The Milk Man has been Essendonised, so even if he was a reliable disposer of the football (clue, he's not), he's mentally scarred. Move on. We should be trying to improve our best 22, not going after depth. That's not how you build lists. We should be attempting to improve our 22. Some of the guys that we already have will become depth if we can improve our 22.

Lol. The Milk Man. Possibly the last player I'd want us to draft. With ASADA hanging over his head, talk about players being scarred.

History also suggests that changing clubs has no effect. Exhibit A, James Frawley. Are we seriously saying if Jack Grimes switched clubs, all of a sudden his horrid decision-making and disposal would improve? Come on. It's the same with The Milk Man.

I trust the FD, but if they go after this guy, a lot of that trust will be broken. I don't care how much intimate knowledge Goodwin has of him, I've seen enough of him to trust my own judgement and we don't need another Grimes, but what's potentially even worse is that he could he banned from playing. Dumb, dumb, dumb if true.

So... Hamish Harltett. I wouldn't say no, but surely we need a bit more leg speed. I guess it'd depend on what we'd give up for him. What do the rest of you think?

Don't really care how courageous someone is if they turn it over or put team mates under pressure every time they get it.

No chance.

He is the Essendon supporter whipping boy and for good reason. A turn over merchant in the Jack Grimes mould. Need I say more?

Nope. It was at the 'G and Travis Johnstone ran around by himself for 46 or 47 possessions.

Thought he was incredibly ordinary for the first half. Worked himself into the game after half time, but was so-so for mine. Calling him a champion of the game is beyond laughable.

And if they replied to them, it'd make them look pretty amateur, IMO.

Lol. Moloney was never an A grader. He was a downhill skiing B grader.

An embarrassment of riches up there. Glad at least, to see Treloar going home. The more their talent is dispersed across the league, the less threatening they become. The same with Gold Coast.

With McCarthy and Tomlinson ahead of him and injuries included, I wonder if we could get him cheaper?

I note Jon Patton's not getting a game. MFC supporter as a kid, was on the rise before his injury. Big lad. Does anyone think he'd be a good foil for Hogan?

I reckon it might be pushing 12 list changes now. I was originally expecting between 8-10.

Who's linking Howe to GC, btw, Red?

Would love Zac Smith and Bennell. Is Whitfield on the outer enough for you?

Still reckon we'll get Prestia and reckon we might get Lynch too. I've no doubt Roos and co are targeting blank flankers with skill that have the versatility to also push into the midfield.

I reckon 3 are pretty likely too.

Lynch, Prestia, McKenzie and Whitfield would do me nicely. Dreamworld, I'd add Bennell. Second rounder on Lynch. First rounder on Prestia. Future second rounder on McKenzie. Future first rounder on Bennell. Howe for Whitfield.

Reckon Hogan will stay put for the forseeable future. He'll be with us until at least 2020, IMO. If we can have a sustained period of success anywhere during that time, he'll remain a demon for life. I get that we need to win games and climb the ladder to retain him, but we'll be knocking on the door of the 8 next year, in his second full season, and he'll be playing finals by his third season. He'd take that I reckon.

What I really like about this is that it's a very young list. We'd only have to replace about 5 players over the next five 3 to 4 years. Plus, we'd need to fill those 5 question marks. Two more draft/trade/FA periods should get us the majority of those players and after that, it'll just be a case of ensuring we have good deoth and any non performers are shown the door. Gold Coast's McKenzie, Bennell and Prestia would be a good start with three of those question marks.

Fair enough. I'd be waiting until the end of the year. Who the heck knows what we'll do over the next few weeks. No doubt though, some heads need to roll.

So you're taking it to mean that there will be more changes than originally expected? Surely it hasn't surely since two weeks ago when Roos said there wouldn't be as many changes? Not saying there shouldn't be lots of players shown the door though. We could probably lose anywhere between 8 and 10 players.