Adam The God

Some pretty good pick 3's over the journey. Alternatively, I hope we go hard for Ben King.

Agreed. I initially said the same thing about Petracca who said he loved the club earlier this season. Something has to go drastically wrong for you to request a trade 23 weeks later.

Aren't they all garbage? And waiting for more confirmation. Have asked her again where exactly she heard it.

It's hard to know until we form our new coaching group. New ideas and coaching goes a long way. We certainly should be making finals next year.

Meh. Faux tough guy. He has some attributes but as some point out already, we have those attributes covered already.

We've got a year to sort ourselves out.

So my sister just texted me to say the Facebook pages are saying Petracca and Salem have asked to be traded. Am I a bit slow on the uptake here?

Gawn is clearly the man for next year. If Lever can get through all the games next year I'd make him co-captain in 2021. Captain - Gawn VC - Lever

I like the idea too. Big yes from me.

If Anderson's as good as some say he is, I wouldn't be disappointed to land him, but getting King would really straighten us up. We already have a dominant Gawn feeding to the likes of Oliver, Harmes, Brayshaw, Viney, Petracca and even Salem. If we added King to McDonald, Melksham, Hannan, Fritsch, Petracca and a speedy natural crumber, we'd start to have a potent list of forward options. Then all we need to a game style that enables connection between midfield and forward.

I'd be starting Salem in the middle next year, alongside Oliver and Brayshaw. I'd have Brayshaw switching in and out of the middle and half forward with Harmes. Then Viney rotating with Salem across half forward and the midfield. His ball use from the midfield and across half forward, connecting midfield with forward half is something we desperately need. A fitter Melksham will help this delivery inside too. Fritsch should only play forward too. I'd love someone like Ben King to partner McDonald and compete with Weideman for the second KP forward spot. Salem needs to move up the ground though.

Mate, it's not 2005 and it's certainly not 1989. Get with the program and get with 2020.

I wonder if TGR delivers a message from the club. This thread is oddly timed and strangely lacks context.

Take a seat, Ross. You failed to win a flag multiple times.

Lyon's game plan is outdated and he has continually failed on the big stage. We need a coach whose game plan and style maximises our strengths and compensates for our weaknesses. If it were 2005, that may well be Ross Lyon, but in 2020 beyond, it's surely someone else with a similar philosophy. Leigh Tudor?

So what's the goss. Are the AFL going to give GCS PP1 at #2 or is Anderson a chance? I'd love to get King.

I'm stuck in an edit suite today locking picture on my current film, with my Collingwood-supporting editor. We're both sitting here with our scarves on and will be there in spirit. This is the first game in Melbourne that I've missed since 2007, so let's see how I go today. We might find ourselves turning on the TV in the background. Today should be revenge for Round 23 2017. Come on, redlegs.

Completely agree. I love Jack but I prefer Brayshaw in the guts. I'm wondering if Viney could play a more defensive role next year and play Clarry, Gus and Harmes in the middle. Clarry and Harmes are great tacklers and if Gus has a decent pre season, he'll bounce back. I'd try Jack 60-70% forwardline tackler and short bursts in the midfield. He won't be traded so we need to find a place for him that doesn't upset the balance of the midfield too much.

Absolutely would go for Richo. I reckon direct replacement for Macca. Head of Development.

Foot skills are overrated. It's the game style that enables players that have good enough foot skills (they were drafted AFL players afterall) to hit targets easier. Richmond's foot skills are okay, as are Geelong's, but only Hawthorn under Clarkson 7 or so years ago could say their kicking was above the rest. West Coast go nicely too, but I think people get foot skills wrong.

Patton won't work in the forward system we need to play. We already have a cumbersome, ordinary forward line that completely lacks pace and gets rebounded off week in and week out. Patton would contribute to this problem. A player like Himmelberg as some have noted is a really good example of a nimble forward that can take a big mark but get the job done on the ground too. Even Greenwood from Adelaide, Lever's best mate, would be an interesting idea to play forward. Quick, strong, a decent kick and a good mark. Could rotate between the midfield and deep forward. We need to radically change our set up, making us faster, unpredictable and harder to coach against. We need a fit Melksham, a fit Hannan, even a fit Vandenberg would help. Along with Petracca, a Greenwood-type, Caddy, Bolton and another quick (how's Bedford coming along?), this will drastically change our forwardline. Personally, I'd implement far more rotation and switching between deep forward, half forward and midfield than we do. I'd basically play a similar system to Liverpool in soccer. The front 3 or 4 attackers constantly rotate in and out of midfield, wide positions and attack. I'd look at making us dynamic as possible by making a lot of our positions agnostic and interchangeable. Patton doesn't won't work if we go down this sort of path.

Oliver is by far our best stoppage player, but in bursts, Petracca can be every bit as dangerous as a stoppage player (a bit like Degoey really).

You've got a blind spot here mate. Petracca's had a very consistent season. His work rate and intensity at ground level has been there all season.

I wouldn't trade Gus. Get his body right and challenge him to really improve his defensive game in 2020 and beyond.

1. Oliver 2. Lever 3. Gawn 4. Melksham 5. May It drops away after this but... 6. Harmes 7. Petracca 8. Salem 9. Viney or Brayshaw 10. Jetta (but is he finished?)