Adam The God

I'd agree with this mate. Brown and the MFC have spoken. I certainly haven't heard that we've met with Phillips or have spoken to him at all. That is not to say it hasn't happened, but I think the chat around Phillips came about on here due to him being squeezed out and being a good fit for us. Particularly, with TMac being mentioned in the Collingwood conversation, I think the 2+2 was flipping those two. I hope we're looking at him nevertheless, particularly if Polec is no longer an option.

Okay, I have to step in here. The French Socialists created the neoliberal EU and were neoliberal monetarists. There is taxpayer money at state and territory level because they don't issue the currency, they need it for revenue, but it is government or public money from the currency issuing Federal Government. Federal taxes don't fund spending. This would be inflationary. Taxes place a demand on the currency and are used to control inflation, while bonds are issued to control interest rates. In 5,000 years the currency issuer has never put its tax revenue back into circulation. And this stuff is not left or right wing, it's just monetary operations and how the economy actually operates within a floating exchange system.

Is Daniel Cherny his manager?

Richmond in 2017 had finished 13th in 2016. Port finished 10th in 2019 and just won the minor premiership, narrowly missing a Grand Final birth. Brisbane finished 2nd in 2019 after finishing 15th in 2018. Essentially, you're saying, let's not aim too high. Let's just make finals. How about no, Doc?

Thanks mate. This is why I really want Ben Brown. Martin / Petracca - Cotchin / Oliver - Riewoldt / Brown - Rance / May That elite spine. Weideman might make it, but I can't see him kicking 50+ next year. Others might, I don't.

My thinking is go after the best assistants and have them carry more responsibility. So a three key assistants for the three areas of the ground and then a head of development. Development coach will likely double as something else. We'll probably need Casey Demons coach too that sits within the FD. If Yze becomes forward coach, he may also handle overall strategy. I think FD set ups will look very different year across the board.

And different people giving the votes. With any luck, most of those that gave the BnF results will be out the door soon.

Cause Swanny was a real oil painting.

We need to turn over that bottom 10 or so and if we can add 4 or 5 best 22 players and maintain fitness, there's no reason we can't give 2021 a good shake.

That to me perfectly represents what we have, an elite midfield that we absolutely need to get more bang for our buck from. A decent forward set up and some good outside ball users will help this.

As I mentioned the other day, the positioning of our list is very Richmond 2013-2016. An elite core with some decent support players and then a marked drop off at the bottom. We've now even got the Martin going to North equivalent with Clarry to Carlton. It can turn quickly. I reckon Richmond's Brownlow spread would have been similar in those aforementioned years to ours tonight. Fix the system, bring in Yze, two or three other highly rated assistants, add Brown, Smith, Phillips and a speedy pressure forward or two and we'll be in the top 4 mix next year. The competition is soft. Richmond can't keep it going forever, Geelong are getting old. No one else scares me.

I reckon Petracca, May and Oliver were easily our three best players. I felt May was slow to get going but was dominant in the second half of the year, whereas Clarry had a difficult patch mid year, but either side of that was usual Clarry eliteness. Trac struggled in Round 1, but after that was consistently elite. Hard to split May and Clarry, but I prefer midfielders, so I'd probably lean slightly towards Clarry. No doubting in my mind that they were easily our three best. Langdon was 4th, with his consistent gut running and I thought he got better and better as the year went on. After that, it was a raffle.

Clarry finishes 9th in the league and doesn't finish top 3 in the BnF. What a joke.

Lol, how does Gawn get two votes in the Carlton game when a rookie broke even with him?

My feeling on Mahoney is he'll stay, but I expect forward, midfield, defence and development coaches to be replaced. Yze will likely take the forwards. I wouldn't be against Richardson taking the development lead as his history is strong in this area. So then we'll be looking for a midfield and defensive coach. Let's hope we can approach some Port coaches this week and some Richmond (or even Geelong) coaches the following week.

If Martin retires, I wonder if Preuss could change his mind and try to get back to his home state...

Gee, Brisbane are crumblers. We've won more finals than them in the last 3 years. ?

It's good IMV that things haven't been announced yet. Port were only just knocked out and Richmond are still in it.

I've no particular problem with Oscar moving on and I wish him no ill will, but not sure I agree with this. The reason we were never really in consideration that year is because our defence leaked goals. IMV that is partly system, partly personnel. It's not coincidence the next off season we went after May.

If he's cheap, it doesn't bother me.

Yep, our window with our midfield and defensive core is 2021-2025. If we can win a flag or two in that time then we'll be able to prolong that window by topping up with FAs to address needs. Even better, my son will be able to grow up with a successful Melbourne. That'd be nice.

Interesting. Nice spot mate. I'd say we probably view Hind as a cheaper option than Higgins. I'd take both though.

Our bottom 6-8 aren't good enough. IMV we need to turn over that bottom half of the list to see if we can find some competent and consistent role players for 2021. Fair enough. I can see that.

We need both IMV. Smith and Phillips, that is.

Why? We need pace in the forward half. Hind knows how to find the goals. Smith and Phillips will play off half back and the wing respectively if we land them. I think we could well get them all. I'd still love Jack Higgins, but he may not want to leave Tigerland.