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I would hope so MSF.

We don't have the class running thru the midfield, to create quickly enough, for this to happen,,, at this point. this is what thee trade discussion is all about. __ getting those class running player's.... onto our list. Thats right. if you read my posts last night, you would have seen my answer to that. .... I give him one more season, to become more mature and Professional about his footy. before the heat comes onto his career. He's a kid who should enjoying his footy... but he's nowhere near fit enough, and should be working on his agility and speed.

This, is about to Swing back again juzzkid1. One pick, and the deal does not get done... Simple, it has to be a top 10 pick + another. The open spaces are about to open up again, via rule changes,,, and tall deep forwards will be back in business. But Hogan is no deep forward. He's a step ladder, in that part of the ground.

It depends not on GWS,,, but on the players themselves, IF they want to move to Melbourne ?

They can all catch the high ball, Jaded. They all have good hands, and can kick straight. So as they rotate past deep forward they are genuine targets. Add Fritsch as well.

Nibbler is a work in progress, and he's progressing a lot every season so far. Its not Nibblers fault, our position.

He's not fully committed to the footy... won't put his body in a place that will be hit.

Weideman, TMc, Petracca, Hannan, Gawn;,,, and others not seen by us yet, with the proceeds.

He was playing high half-forward, midfield, and that had his enjoyment high, and confidence was up. He could run about and collect kicks at will. He is NO full forward.

Yes, obvious call. I called for this last year. for him to play like Ryan O'Keefe did. and like jRiewoldt is now.

He holds the ball, and his run-up,,,,, is for a LEFT Footer. Why hasn't anyone listened to my post years back,,,, and taught him to kick with the left boot ????

This is because he's not a natural deep forward... and I'm sure he doesn't want to play out his time being a step ladder. Hogan is and always was a high forward, half-forward type. He does not have a launch button. So plays low on confidence, when as a deep forward.

Hogan would have to shed Kilo's to do a Jack Riewoldt, and jack was already more nimble than Jesse is.

Someone like a Lachie Neale. We need some like this for the 'G'. We have to trade for it, or draft it. but we need it.

I could get a Goal ( iIIi )with an open forwardline and an open midfield putting the ball in my hip pocket.

Yes i am. And I do have to read it. and I try to make it as plain to see, as I can. This is how I wish to portray myself, and my message. One doesn't have to watch tv shows, or look at art. It is what it is. And this is me. .

Each AFL kid grows up for the first 18yrs of life taking in the stories of AFL footy through media, if that's their interest. Subconsciously they are aware of clubs struggles and triumphs.its well known the story of Melbourne being fragile under real heat/pressure. Once at Melbourne the players learn and grow together, but once in a position of playing for the big prizes, those early dominant memories surface with the pressure of the coming finals... whether negative ones, or positive ones, depending on which club it is. This effects the mental framework within the individual and collectively the team and the crowd. (ie: mental anticipation/expectation). These revert back to memories, in the search for ammunition to fire in the big games. Most of our memories are negative ones, as we tend to be down the bottom, much more often, than near the top. These negative images create fear in the minds of all, and its so difficult to think thru fear. To be rational enough under pressure to come out clean and winning. Add the conservatism bred into our DNA, and so we are too comfortable with loss (used to it) and with being fearful (under the surface) than we oughta be. >>> (over time, leads to defeatism. acceptance). "oh well, better luck next week". The more aggressive clubs handle they're fears much better, they will come our fighting, pumped up and intimidating. Taking it right on. We have to aim to be aggressive once again, that fire and brimstone spirit which 'Checker' brought to the club,,,,, that was snuffed out by those conservatives who got rid of Norm Smith,,, and we lost Barassi when at his fiercest. We have far too many fire-fighters around our support networks. ... Conservativeness/FEAR, is Our curse.

Don't give up,,, jshc_ We are right on the cusp of breaking through... our best chance since the 80's. We ARE on the right track... it just seems we are closer than we are. If you know what I mean. A false dawn, just ahead of the real dawn. We still have some lingering amateurish attitudes lingering within the club, from the decades & the days, before Roosy. These attitudes will leave the club,,, if we continue this struggle in the direction we are currently on. I think Goody knows these issues, I sense he does anyway. We still have some horse trading to do, and further recruiting. But we are very close. And we are very young within. We need another mini clean & freshen. The game has changed over the last 2 years, and so an adjustment is required. Stick tight buddy... I hope your dad is OK. I too went through the feelings at school your talking about, and attended games alone,,, as well as often going to Sainters games with good mates. . I loved it when Melbourne and Flower pants-ed the Sainters.

We've had a fear in the club of switching thru traffic, going back into traffic to open up the angles into our forwardline. They coral us to one wing and hold us wide and then we just surrender up and bomb long under duress.

If I have anything at all to do with it Hogan will be traded. Tyson as well. We need changes this year as we're running out of mature leaders to settle this team. You think today was bad and directionless. Wait till 2021, if we don't add leaders into this group. This years trade period is crucial for us.

my formatting is just fine, as far as I'm concerned. My eyes may need some help, but the formatting is how i like to read it. With space around the text. So i can see it easily.

I don't care how many goals you think he's kicked in relation to others stats. He hasn't been successful when the press has been applied to us in the mids,,, and forcing us wide and narrow into our F50. He has not done well when we get controlled thru the middle. He has played well, when the game is open in lesser games, and when he plays high. When we have an open forward 50, and 2 or 3 talls in there to divide the defenders, he can do Ok. We will not get that latitude in finals matches. And we did not get that today. You can speak slowly, you can speak all night to the wall for all I care, your wrong. Jesse is not suited to playing as THE Deep forward. unless they leave him one out.

Never been unhappy about Oliver... nor Brayshaw for that matter, apart from a concern about his health maintenance. Brayshaw has upped his ante this backend of 2018. Viney we already know about, as a tough in-under. no problem with him apart from pretending to be the man of steel, Re his bones. Petracca is still a boy, hiding in a mans body. still too much puppy fat. And an amateur attitude to the game. I'll give Petracca another season (2019), to sort his head out. So it only leaves 2 candidates we can trade with, for anything decent at all.

He is not in any way a deep forward. He is a natural high half-forward. He'll get slaughtered as deep forward, in big game pressure. We could only do that, with an open forwardline like we get in smaller games, on occasions... Or to bring it to ground, but we are in no way classy enough, Re small forwards, to capitalise on this ploy. Jesse has to play high, and roam around. He can't even kick, when close to goal. Playing high frees him up. The best thing is to trade him, and use the proceeds to acquire others. Tyson, I'll take the 2nd Rnd'r, or a trade I wonder if Weitering is approachable ? for a price ? Also Harry Mckay.

He is, obviously playing sore,,, but he's moved this way for 3/4trs of the time he's been with Mfc. We are better off for tall forwards, than we are for class mids. We'll need to draft kids, both halfback and wing running types... and smalls. And we need an injection of quality mature mids... Gaff could be one for the outside, but we need a class in/outside player to add to Oli & Angus. We'll need to trade for them.