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The  AFL is a [censored] weak organisation.

Garbage final quarter. 

Potentially our last win for the year.

Slow, unfit, average skills, no discernable method or team rules, no midfield depth.

What a shambles.

Goodwin probably happy with himself after that win.

Sure, umps had a few howlers but not scoring at all in a final quarter is pathetic.

OK, so Goodwin presser.

I'm not going to dissect it but one thing that irks me.

He pointed out that Pies are a high pressure team and that we need to execute better under pressure. Fine.

Howabout as part of that we APPLY pressure of our own.

Pies played an easy, third gear style of game today and won by 8 goals

Because we let them.

Our guys don't do physical pressure that well full stop.

We don't body spoil.

We don't run hard enough straight line at opponents.

We corale too much.

We don't know the sneaky art of hurting opponents. Ala Moore knee into Petracca.

We play happy happy joy joy footy under Goodwin.

No wonder Maysy gets so [censored] off.

47 inside 50s

6 goals

We were actually 4 from 40 before the last 2 junk goals.

I guess there's a bit more to footy than just contested ball and territory hey Simon.

The scary thing is Pies are only in third gear.

4 minutes ago, poita said:

We've got 6 home games to come this season. These last two weeks will cost the club millions of dollars. 

Yep, that's the other ramification.

We're unwatchable.

Even when we win it is a hard slog but it could get seriously embarrassing.

5 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Viney - 1 clearance

Oliver - 44% KE

It's a big problem for the rest of the year too.

No Petracca is going to show up our serious lack of midfield depth and this diabolical gameplan.

Godwin is going to get exposed big tine here.

A few have gone in half hearted here and there but in general it's pointless listing poor players.

We are improvising out there, the players have no instinct.

We have no system. We aren't drilled forward of centre.

Poor skills and decisions are a biproduct of this.

Even simple stuff like fisting it on in marking contests up forward for runners to run on to. We don't do it.

That spoil attempt by Billings as example, no body on body pressure.

Footy 101 stuff.

Simon has to go.

Poor old Gawny has to do everything out there.

Goodwin and his stupid gameplan has ridden on the shoulders of 4 or 5 players for way too long.

They should be a weapon but under Goodwin they are a crutch.

3 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Laurie and Chandler are second rate and Turner and Howes are not ready. More holes in our list than Swiss cheese 

Our senior acquisitions have been ordinary since the 21 GF as well.

Dunstan, Hunter, Billings all rubbish.

Our list management has been millionaire stuff.

Even the best teams replenish year on year with quality. Not us.

11sec, couldn't hold on.

With 45sec to go, twice kicking out of defence couldn't get either a mark or stoppage.

I don't mind Goodwin as a person, I think he has a high EQ and don't buy any of the culture stuff but he has to go. He's derelict in his coaching duties.

Diabolical gameplan and bog average list which has become way out of balance. Totally inept forward of centre.

Contested ball and territory is all he has. Nothing about transition, conection, team rules, forward system.

When our players get the footy they have to think about what they're going to do with it. When the Pies players get it they already know and are gone.

Slow, disorganised, inaccurate.

But at least we're winning the territory battle hey Goody.

Petracca now injured

We don't have a midfield. 

Our gameplan, list and fitness are all a shambles.

Most embarrassing team forward of centre. 

Bottom 4 in '24.

The board will support Goodwin to the hilt though.

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

Wasnt JJ a free agent?

The timing of Angus’ retirement really hurt us - as I recall it was after trades and after draft day. So no possible replacement. 

Yeah he walked.

From the outside looking in it doesn't seem like we did much to keep him though.

To think he is getting game time in Sydney's midfield, of all teams - kind of puts it into perspective.

Gus hurts but irrespective our midfield stocks are way too thin going forward IMO.

To my mind it is a biproduct of Gawn  Trac, Oliver being so dominant at the CB in years gone by and a football ideology which simply doesn't value quick transition between the arcs.

Listening to Nathan Brown (who I rate as a good football brain and impartial) on MMM he suggested McVee to the midfield. Not the worst suggestion I've heard.

These sorts of losses, well maybe not this big  but bad none the less are going to become more frequent I fear.

We have a select few players who are very tired and have carried this team (and Goodwin) for quite some time.

Furthermore the list is out of balance going forward.

Filth by 10 goals next week.

Our game style is rubbish and has been for some time.

Controlling and slowing the game and relying on superhuman efforts from the same 3 or 4 players every week is not sustainable, logical or even watchable.

Goodwin simply won't change from this. This is the alarming part.

Things will have to get really ugly for a few years before the club seriously looks at the coach. In the meantime our list gets older and more out of balance.

This era is over unfortunately.

Even worse, the next coach is rebuilding. Generational players like Gawn, Oliver, Petracca will be a luxury he won't have.

It has been an issue for some time.

It is really coming home to roost now though.

12 months ago I said we were heading for a midfield cliff and got laughed at.

Now, James Jordon is no superstar, but he was at least a genuine developing midfielder. Im not suggesting he would have been a major difference for us but it's the mindset of our football brains trust that is the issue.

What in god's name was going through their mind in letting him go. Could they not see our ageing, one paced midfield needed all the help it could get going forward?

Pickett was severely under utilised in the guts last season to mix it up. Used only occasionally this year in light of Brayshaw.

Goodwin continually blind to the elephant in the room.

1 minute ago, bing181 said:

- Angus Brayshaw.

Heart and soul player but was inconsistent in the midfield, not to mention one paced, and would have made little difference over a whole season. Around the ground he is missed no doubt.

We are short 2 or 3 decent rotating mids. Goodwin's reluctance to develop other players in the guts has also exacerbated this.

Moronic gameplan and we've recruited accordingly.

1 minute ago, DubDee said:

OLIVER ZERO CONTESTED POSSESSIONS IN A HALF OF FOOTY

VINEY WITH ONE

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS MIDFIELD?!

It has been run into the ground by a severe lack of depth and quality rotations. Our recruiting has been diabolical.

The Goodwin gameplan has severely under valued speed and transition on top so we are now overly reliant on centre breaks and dominance at half back.

This midfield implosion has been in the making for at least 2 yrs.

On 29/05/2024 at 18:53, Gouga said:

A key forward???

We'll just add him to the 19 other forwards on our list.

Goodwin has absolutely munted this list.

Unless Gawn, Petracca & Oliver dominate every week we generally  lose. They have no quality support around them. We have no midfield depth for regular rotation or to mix it up. The same predictable [censored].

Forward of centre we've been terrible since mid 2022. Goodwin has done nothing but flood our list with mediocre forwards (at the expense of our midfield) - not addressed the actual problem.

We play slow because we are slow.

If he comes out and says we didn't get the game on our terms I'll spew.

We're too slow between the arcs.

Midfield has no depth, been saying this for 2 yrs.

We have defenders, so so forwards, a whole heap of utility types and a very shallow engine room.

The list is out of balance becaus it is too tailored to structure and control.

Relying on Gawn, Trac and Oliver in the guts and May/Lever to intercept every week is not a gameplan.

Win or lose today I think we're in trouble going forward.

What a [censored] win.

Mentioned last year our engine room was heading towards a cliff.

Petracca is beast mode - when fit, but last year showed he can't sustain a full year in the guts (which is understandable given how intense he plays) spending some time forward late in the year.

Viney - solid but getting on and at some stage will slow up. Done a lot of enforcer work over the years.

Oliver - unknown as to how many games he plays.

Sparrow - hasn't taken next step.

The rest are either wingers or makeshifters from other positions or kids who haven't played a game.

Jordon was not A-grade but he is a loss. Used mostly in guts and was building. He will be serviceable at Sydney.

Hop on the Dees website and look at the players breakdown by position. 19 listed as forwards FFS. Sure, some might get some mid time like Pickett and ANB but Pickett will be managed timewise and ANB is not engine room calibre full stop. 

IMO we have flirted with the last two off-seasons trade and draft wise.

Goodwin has ridden on the shoulders of Gawn , Trac , Oliver for too long and I think it will catch up with us in 2024.

I'm not saying some of the players we've picked up over the last few years are no good but we are too short on specialist mids. 

If 1 of Trac, Oliver or Viney goes down we are getting chopped up week in week out.

Vale Ron Barassi

Such a massive part of football. ICON and LEGEND.