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6. Jack Viney - by so far the best on the ground. An incredible performance off 66% game time. 5. Max Gawn - Shaded McEvoy. If he doesn't play, we don't win. Tapwork second half instrumental. 4. Clayton Oliver - 7 clearances, 8 tackles - grinded away again. 3. Tom McDonald - four goals and was the safety valve and steadier all night. 2. James Harmes - battled hard against Mitchell, didn't let him cut us up. 1. Michael Hibberd - very good in the first half.

North have another promising ruck, Xerri, on their list and if you actually go club by club there aren't a lot of teams that actually need a first ruckman - and even less if you consider that maybe Preuss wants to live in Melbourne. It may be that we're willing to pay him overs contractually to come and be the insurance policy for Gawn, given it is an obvious hole in the list.

I wouldn't want him. Isn't a bad player, but isn't the 'elite' ball user he was projected to be and tends to just coast through the games, not having a huge impact but not doing all that much wrong by the same token.

The Crows will surely try and package picks and McGovern for Pick 1. It's an interesting position for Carlton. With Curnow and McKay they don't really have a need for another young key forward. So their decision is to either bypass the best player and go for need (midfielder Walsh) at 1. Take Lukosius as best player available. Or to get multiple picks (8, 15, 19 an example) and have a quantity not quality approach at the draft. They probably have to take Walsh, which then leaves Gold Coast at pick 2 and Pick 3 who the Crows on draft night could try and sway. The Suns desperately need a key forward but the go-home factor concern will be enormous. It's quite interesting. Wouldn't shock me if the Suns take the King brothers at 2 and 3 with Lukosius bizarrely sliding based on non-ability reasonings. But you'd hope they would back their culture in and take him.

I agree with the first bit, particularly in relation to Harmes. I think he was probably rated a bit as a versatile flanker but I don't think they could have foreshadowed him being the powerful inside outside mid with decent finishing ability that he has seemingly become.

Surely King gets delisted.

It wouldn't shock me if he was dropped, he was completely ineffective, but it does leave Pedersen as first ruck and takes him away from a key position berth so perhaps he is injured and played injured last week, explaining his performance. Preuss could only really be the back up ruckman. The one thing with our list is if two of Weideman, McDonald or Hogan were unavailable you could run with Gawn and Preuss in the same side no problems. He is not a skilled forward but he will compete.

there is absolutely no way Mitch King will be kept on the list after last week's performance.

Carlton will get McGovern - they have been trying to get him for the last two years and he's now keen to go there.

B: Alan Johnson, Sean Wight, Paul Prymke HB: Brett Lovett, David Neitz, Gary Hardeman C: Stan Alves, Greg Wells, Robbie Flower HF: Garry Lyon, David Schwarz, Adem Yze F: Jeffrey Farmer, Allen Jakovich, Gerard Healy FOLL: Jim Stynes, Todd, Viney, Jack Viney I/C: Jeff White, Stephen Tingay, Glenn Lovett, Steven Febey EM: Andrew Obst, Nathan Jones, Shane Woewodin.

Any team with Jim Stynes and Garry Lyon on the bench is unfortunately well wide of the mark. Peter Moore and Strawbs not fit to tie Jimmy's shoelaces.

Neeld overruled Prendergast and took James Sellar over Nick O'Brien

And then do you think of Hogan and T.Mac and want to give him a big hug.

Realistically, to get Bennell youd have to give our first rounder and Howe in all likelihood.

Not suggesting it should or will happen, but Hunt could be a prime delist and rookie candidate.

Black was well beaten by Lucas Cook a few weeks ago

Interesting. Dean Gore beat Petracca when they went head to head. She has also savaged Peter Bampton who she can't possibly have seen much of. One problem the SA team have is that a lot of their better players in the carnival, Daniel, Gregson, Johansen, Hone et cetera are seemingly less desirable because of height.

Is he going to nominate?

Severe hamstring injury - hasn't played since NAB Cup. Been resigned.

Jack Lonie is a nigh on certainty to get drafted - and probably a lot higher than many think, the performances of Lewis Taylor and JKH and others will have done him no harm. There will be clubs that will put a red line through Lamb for intangible reasons and for the fact that he is so wildly inconsistent. There will also be clubs like North Melbourne, as an example and I have no inside info on this, that may take him early if they feel he could add some instant potency to their forward half whilst they see themselves to be in the 'window'.

No evidence for that. Roos in 9 years never drafted a big-bodied ready to go midfielder. And last year he drafted small again. Acquiring Vince, Riley, Cross has bought the club time to acquire the best talent without being compromised in its search.

That's right, of course, but whether it be a rookie pick or a later round or whatever, we need to start at least trying to develop some key position players. One of the reasons Casey is floundering is that there is no MFC listed non ruck talls. That's a problem at Casey but also speaks to a list vacuum. I will be very surprised if the club doesnt take at least one development KPP somewhere along the line.

And what roles would these players play in the current side? Petracca is a very good player. He would have gone close to top 10 last year as a forward and he's certainly in the mix no doubt, and Brayshaw is good too. I'mm not knocking the players. But I will attack the concept. The club should fold if we aren't going to draft the best talent because it doesn't believe it can develop talent or bodies. The club's recruiting would also be a disgrace if it is drafting the oldest and highest Body Mass Index midfielders in the draft pool just cause they are ready to go. One needs to remember that the players you mentioned have advantages over their peers that disappear to a fair degree once they enter the AFL system. The only way for this club forward is to assemble a critical mass of quality talent of all shapes and sizes. As such it should draft the players they think will be best over the span of their careers, none of this ready to go nonsense. The Western Bulldogs have set themselves up for years by drafting two midfield rakes and there is no evidence to suggest they are any better at developing than we are. The only desperate need we have to fill in this draft is a developing key position player at some stage in the draft or trading process. Other than that get the best talent at each decision!

And he don't much like Scott Pendlebury either or Dom Tyson.

If Adam Tomlinson was in the draft I'd have a fairly large bet that St Kilda would take him with pick 1.