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Also Im prepared to cop the hate on this one But I don't reckon Jack Grimes is up to it - would trade/delist Again just my opinion. And in reality I'd keep him on the list for his experience and leadership until the young brigade take over. I hope he plays in the seniors for the rest of the year and proves me wrong, but his disposal is iffy and he is too slow and just gives up the ball. Take the tackle and get pinged don't just cough up the pill fffs Anyway as I said my 2 cents

I rekon Chris Yarran should be a target Got some great assets and I reckon he is gettable from Carlton. His run off half back would be great at the Dees, something we really lack. Anyway just my opinion no 'sources'

Like t Mac - we need some quality ball users down back to support him... I'd lock t Mac for 3-5 yrs

NA - name me our outside mids then let me know who of them deserves to play ahead of Toump (whos only played 10 games?) who is only 18? C'mon mate real world - the MFC are full of soft blokes who don't support the club and play for themselves - Compare Sylvias game to Toumpas for a start - then ask yourself as a young bloke how'd you go in this side?

Fair enough i respect your entitled to you opinion in this thread My simple point is there are others who deserve the criticism rather then toump

It is a worry how Toump plays at the moment - there is no confidence in his game at all - it was higlighted in the 2nd qtr??? when he was clear inside 50 and had two options (kick goal or pass to spencer) and fuked it up... It is also a worry that people can write off a 1st year player that has had zero support in the midfield as well. N Jones and Viney is all he had today. Put Toup in a good side and he will flourish. The problem with the MFC is there is no leadership and [censored] poor standards How about judging a bloke like Sylvia whos been in the system 10 years and I saw more of Toup then I did of Sylvia and I'd back Toump had a greater impact then the 10 year hero Sylvia (that should be saying something)

I'll take what you say on Face Value GNF - the club is falling apart - lets talk about some Footy issues that is J Watts Lets say Watts comes back after Queens Birthday - i think we play the dogs??? From the last 10ish rounds what is reasonable expectaion of Watt's output so WE the MFC want to offer him another contract? When is Jack Watts expected to deliver consistent performances? And let's not forget that Watts isn't being asked to carry the load or expectations of a CHB or CHF he is playing as a 3rd up tall across half back where blokes like Dermie would argue if you can't get a kick across half back you ain't much chop as a player

Fair enough I was in the Southern stand and outnumbered 5 - 1 ratio and there were plenty of Bombers wankers clapping Watts when he went off - Seemed like an over reaction to what was a bronx cheer... Anyway continue your sky is falling debate

Sorry Jaded do you seriously believe that? I was at that Game and i'd say apart from a few MFC people the majority were Essendon wankers that were cheering [censored] they are wankers Bombers supporters..........I hate Essendon with a passion So my question to you is......... Were you there did you see mass of MFC fans cheering or are you believing what you heard in the media?