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Haha pointless emotional post I like x player he deserves a game

based on what? Gut feel? You know he wants more opportunity? Just adlibbing? While I don't disagree with the point you've made, it is a long season, there are at least 21 games left for Gus to make an impact. We all know we struggle to perform consistently over a whole season. Players not playing now isn't the end of the world, as some on here would like to make out. I want to see Gus play in the ones, but if we are winning games (I know we aren't yet...) but let's just hold the dogs off a little longer hey???

Don't stress mate Sounds like this game is a flogging. Not the greatest yardstick for next week

Bust.... Haha thanks @demon77

Nice to have some depth @DubDee It's a long season and have some players looking over their backs

Haha I 100% agree. Not safe money at all. Not quoting you anymore @Petraccattack I just quoted you because we as supporters have had to enjoy 'dark' humor to get through a lot of seasons. But I firmly believe we need to change our mindset. We are not an elite team but we are a much much better team. It's a long season and the start is always frantic (upsets and fast paced footy). This Dees team is playing some good footy, I for one am pledging to drop the negativity for the first few rounds

Is there any coverage?? Radio etc?

Bar injuries I'm predicting no changes. If they are to make a change my guess would be a small gorward for another mid.

Now whos lying theough their teeth/keyboard haha

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I 100% agree. Dont know the guy, nothing personal but on sen he didn't sound very informed at all.

Pretty accurate

Agree Poor ball use going forward at times. Such a frustrating finish to keep them to 2 goals to the second half and not win. We kicked 1.7 in the final term/// sigh

JW wouldn't have got a touch today and you know it. Port smashed freo in all facets of the game Troll on

Will be an interesting 2nd half. Sadly we're getting beaten up aroind the ball and allowing.cats to.clear top easily. Without viney i cant aee us getting back on top

I share you're sentiments Jmac, but this is the Dees... who knows what's going to happen

Jack who?

Good luck to Wagner and the boys. A lot of complaints and a bit of a surprise, but he's done nothing wrong in the preseason. Good to have competition for spos

Fair enough, I take you're point re NRL But both are cut throat industries

So is AFL Don't know much about you Saty and not having a go... But AFL isn't healthy in Regional Vic - lots of smaller clubs being wound up and amalgamated

Yep spot on mate. Time for that to change

Not in the article but it's because all storm players have done it multiple times - was on the radio Like it or not - the MFC has a soft tag and has had it a long long time - supporters and team. The only way to fix it is win. Now this is off topic and has nothing to do with the camp - the issue isn't the camp itslef it's the way it all happened

In the article Bellamy actually says it has little to do with physical training.... ‘‘The camp helps us see how these players are going to fit into our club,’’ said Bellamy. ‘‘To be quite honest, the IDQ guys are not always right but over 15 years they haven’t been wrong too often.’’ ‘‘I spoke to Simon Goodwin and Brendan McCartney about it and explained the camp helps us see how guys react working under pressure and fatigue with teammates. It is a way for me to get information about my players and their strengths and weaknesses so we can help them improve. It’s more of a mentally taxing exercise than physical.’’ Like her or not Caro's article does raise some good points... maybe the spoon fed AFL media is right about the Demons being mentally soft afterall

While I agree in principle with your points, if they were acted out in the reality you speak of then no players in the AFL would play games because of the risk of injury while playing games, all of the public scrutiny hurting their feelings etc. It makes no sense for AFL purposes Fact is AFL players have to accept certain realities in their AFL career, eg, higher risk of injury, shorter careers for most, high public scrutiny etc. which is all compensated with extremely high wages for their troubles. While I respect the AFLPA are representing player interests, you need to see or at least acknowledge the bigger picture as well. The AFL isn't easy, it's designed to weed out the weak. If you acknowledge what Ballamy has to say, it sounds like the camp is a training tool and not a cornerstone of preseason. Why and how is the camp seen as acceptable for an NRL club but not an AFL club? Are AFL clubs softer? Or is something else going on? Hopefully the MFC have acknowledged the room for improvement in player wellbeing and welfare but for the AFLPA to step in over a 2 day camp is pretty laughable, and while not being sensitive the scrutiny on the club and players is worthy. In saying all that, the saga it is an interesting debate and interesting look at the dynamic of club and players. And relationships in the club we don't normally see. I personally don't believe it will have a massive affect on the season, and I think the soft tag will motivate some players more and with the added desire to perform hopefully that bodes well for the season ahead.

Stats aren't the be all end all. Was his first game for the season, and he wasn't bad at all. But I'm sticking to my call (I accept I could be very wrong)