beelzebub

lol

Nut...its a fine line surely between losing games and them winning. In reality its two sides of the same coin, just depends which seats you watch from . By coughing up the pill you lose momentum and the pressure on the opposition that such carry incurs. You just make a rod for your own back by stuffing things up. You wont win games ( agree in that sense ) if you do this continually., which by and large...is where we're at !! ne c'est pas ?

The reality ( for mine ) is hes probably looking at his last decent contract. If he works it right he'll get 4-5 years on good coin at a club that regularly ( atm ) plays finals. Do I decry him for possibly going ? No. Will I cry if he goes ? No Will his loss be as big as some lament here ? I dont think so Players will move. Some will join, some will leave. Such is life What I dont care for is the postulating and/or the song and dance about reasons etc. Thats just comical and I'll respect anyone less for it. otherwise...roll on '15 Go Dees

Mockery indeed

lets not get too carried away..lol

Interesting. I agree Roos is not a change for change's sake type of Coach. I cant see more than 2 effective change myself though he might play with the sub's role

Its ok Jazza...Only ever drink real milk.....not the pretend variants... Dont even mind if theres permeate in there too lol

Its because this invariably leads to a Hasta Manana Baby !!

Where a lot of arguments ...or 'takes on things" get murky is that irrespective of any advice given to anyone. If someone took something on the NO-NO list of WADA then you get pinged. Argue all you like thats the rules that are agreed to by the codes and by extrapolation the players. Athletes have been pinged for doing things they werent even aware of let alone signing up for an "experiment'

Or they may be proceeding for the right reasons and because now is when they can.

Bob..its simple. Under the rules players must KNOW what they are taking or be penalised.They cant assume nor only give lip service to this understanding. Infractions aren't handed out willy nilly. We will just differ Bob.

they all concern me . Only varies by amount and what day. Garland has a bit of leeway as hes not 100% but as others rightly say how does that go to decision making as it's gone a tad backwards. No point doing hard work only to have it constantly rammed back down your throat through turn overs.its senseless.

Bob...you want the players off scott free. I want them to follow the rules and be accountable not only to ASADA but their peers; all the other athletes that DO do the right thing.

In a 'matter of fact' sort of fashion I find myself somewhat bemused by all this Frawley discussion. Is he a absolute gun, is he a needed ( not desired, needed ) player ? is he playing good footy ? and then theres any number of questions about whether his heart and mind are even still with us at the Dees? A gun.? One truly stellar year to date, some rather servicable, currently all over the shop Needed? Where ? In Defence. Seems to work ok without him. We already have fillips etc and can develop others. Up front. A very makeshift and sometimes handy fwd who can kick but is that why youd pay big bucks to keep him ? Id have to say im one of those who currently thin his real value is in what 'that' could be put to use in acquiring someone else for another particular 'role". Im not sure Chip currently has a valid role with us..

agree with much of this.

Funny, might be just me, but I thought it worked. Player issued show cause..........Players show causes ( or not ) Not other way around

and yet the clock still ticks !! tic toc

Melbourne must choose between trying to keep James Frawley or turning its attention to the draftinteresting

21.1 Roles and Responsibilities of Athletes 21.1.1 To be knowledgeable of and comply with all applicable anti-doping policies and rules adopted pursuant to the Code. I dont think so

Roos is still evaluating...hold firm

When in Rome.... but en parlant français !!!

Most players as a result of the efforts of JH and the EFC would be Shattered..... or possibly Chatte-Hird !!!

Players have no real out. Its incumbent upon them to be aware, to question etc etc etc. Ignorance or I dont give a f , isnt an out Giving over complete trust to narcissists isnt either in fact ...theres just no excuse

looks ok to me

Borders on hilarious really doesnt it. Headlines...Coach gives player Spray........WoW !!