beelzebub

Only a Chest mark if kicked to him...not over him Not only did he telegraph the intention, he did it in slo mo !!....then MISSED !!

How long did it take him also ?? a contributing factor to the debacle.

that assumes nothing fills the void. But thats like suggesting we'd play with only 16 on the field. If they weren't there there'd be someone else so there's nothing scary about it at all. They're hardly the double act of the century ( or maybe they are )

So Ziebell.. gets a 50...gets a good 'talking to " by Half the Hawks...is cleared !!! Bernie just bracing himself to AVOID hitting with arm..get a fine..?? you kidding me folgs the lot of them

things a joke in the first place

makes perfect sense to me

On way home from Sydney yesterday , due to some confounding lack of ability on the part of the mobile app for checking in, my good wife and I were to sit behind each other on the flight. A lovely lass offered to change seats to let us sit together. Another thank you to her..... oh yes.....she was of course adorned with a Melbourne scarf !! Such lovely people Melbourne supporters

You also rightly an aspect which was complicit in the stupidity of this play i.e it wasnt even executed well. Elements that contributed to this inglorious stuff up. : The weather.. very wet, ball slippery. Vision a bit impeded with rain Tmac took an eternity to decide. O mac was in the wrong place he needed to be further away towards forward of the pocket...Standing near the square only gave a "kick to the keeper" as best possible outcome...then stuffed. Tmacs kick poor... too weighted and too high. Omac had to turn and lose sight of ball.. Not good day for that. Opposition player running at Oscar... O mac must have heard the splash splash footsteps !! The sensible kick was straight back up the coast and allow ball to be thumped over line...Its So old school , tried and tested its not funny. When ever Tommy tries to get cute...cue the "stuff up"

Melb v Syd wet behind ears

I agree..i dont expect much more... Its also why under normal conditions he wouldnt be out there in the first place.. We have f all depth in the backline.. Is our priority for the summer...sort it out.

much work ahead....much

Hopefully he's transitioning from "wobbly" to "consistent/sweet "

Thats one of most stupid things Ive seen for a while. . Dicey even on a dry day. I mean Oscar , my name's 'fumbles" Mcdonald !! but in the wet...really. This clearly illustrates the limited capacity of some players to reason...not to think...but reason. Had Oscar even managed to take it cleanly what was the next disposal ? He was already a 'marked' man by Rohan. I agree with those that suggest you cant blame results necessarily on one play but good ol' Tommy has THE knack for doing things at just the wrong moment...or to be more correct do things that later become defined as THE moment games turn for the worse. If there's sliding doors players he often is the one to slam it shut !! He needs governance down there. He needs a real #1 back to teach/mentor/instruct.. Maybe then he's worth keeping

You'd almost think it's the attitude of someone not fully committed. Until he signs he has not mentally bought into the club's future.As such he plays more like an individual in a game. If he signs watch for the change up.

Reality is players seldom get 'that' much time. Often his decisions are "odd" and resultant kick ineffective. Needs someone more capable and experienced overseeing him out there. If he tools within ability he can be an ok #2 in defense. Currently a less than joyful #1. His paypacket should reflect what he CAN do not what he thinks he can. The brain fades haven't dissipated overly noticeably. Even after all this time.

Hope we do... Sure is pizzing down !!!

Weather permitting flying back at 7

The game will be played in the rain me thinks. Am currently in Cronulla. Sky ominous. Radar showing rain over Sydney ...can't be far from here. Umbrellas and Sou' westers all round

Red.. I didn't suppose I knew any salary. My point was it was suggested that it might be the opening offer. It may not be. For discussion the actual number is irrelevant as that's the club's and players business currently. How it's progressing is totally up for talking about. I think it's funny some don't think players stuff around with this. FWIW I wouldn't lose sleep if he went.

and who's to say this is the opening offer from the club ? Just saying

Of course. Me thinks Tommy was expecting the starting point to be a tad higher

Seems to have them stumped at present

And if it's STILL raining

nothing gets past you