beelzebub

Flag Everything else is moot

M.........O Same same

Moscato....my god some will lower themselves to drink anything !!

You realise....you can have both....bacon...AND avocado !!

In what Universe ???

Not any more well... not in Vic ....

how strange a time of year this becomes when we just don't gaf !! rather like it personally

not sure he calls it that....

the man had an enviable wit

JL

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..and yet.......

Finis

Shhhh

Try thrice... it's the charm.

very gassy

I did offer him the advice of watching those carbs !!!

Or simply the Devil's Advocate

I'd just like to point out... irrespective of what you know; you have no idea who I am, who I might know, indeed what I might know. What I choose to believe is my decision, as is yours whatever you choose. Invariably what I believe has some foundation and corroboration. That said I'm quite able to acknowledge that someone else might know something also, something different. I can accept the possibility without subscribing. What you believe I can't comment on nor care. It might be the only thing we agree upon us a desire to see the Dees prosper. Cheers

I'm not asking you to Cheers

Then of course there is stuff which is quite factual...but some choose to observe the confidence of the person concerned, or simply the name of the source. It's up to you what YOU actually believe.

It might be distasteful...but some things are said off the record . They can be blunt...and seemingly fly in the face of 'official statements' . A reason I seldom take much notice of officialdom is because it is a construct. Officially... it's a recent course of direction that Jesse leaves the club. There was plenty of discussion away from the public eye and certain circles knew not only of his imminent move but that this was likely as of about 6-7 months back. As indeed was his near departure at eos2O17 . There are still elements that may never break the surface, but they are there. Some comments made to me by people of the club , people who know the club and other contributors certainly paint interesting stories , not just of Jesse. Am I surprised ? No, because clubs are made up of characters that suffer the human condition. Stuff happens. Much of it irrelevant to the play of the day. Also...as people, club officials may not always share the same opinions. All in all...I'm not all that surprised. There's very few Saints in the province of Demons. Anyhow.... he's someone else's job to deal with. Not ours.

Funny in a fashion that you put it in those terms. I think that's precisely what many have done. Some wear a different glass to others. It's very possible we see different things.