beelzebub

Only a fool upsets a Hornet's nest !!

A good analogy there BA... solves all argumetns really as thats essentially exactly what we're doing...just happens to be in the season proper..a season with nothing else to offer......except ................

AFL Boss backs Dees Here we have it folks...undeeniable proof that not only does tanking exist but that the AFL all but condones it. Well it must do as thats the way the PP works and its the AFL's idea to have it...so it must be right.

someone hinted at this but I think its very essential to teh whole perspective of this dillemma. GC !! If it wasnt for teh concessions of the looming GC team as well as W Sydney then the importance of this years draft mightnt be so intense and focussed. We havent done this the AFL has... again were in the firing line for some one elses f-up !!

good pick up there Its all very well for some and not others..It only goes to the argument that this is far from a truly equal competition and Im not talking revenues and resources but how the various teams are situated in the pecking order . I think its only 'real' tanking when a PP is at stake apparently..or if you arent connected !! Its not apples and apples...never has been , Only now were trying to get our own barrel and stuff the rest its not kosher. Seems we dont know our place as underlings.

tend to agree...they ( well many are writing us off ) the cleverer amongst the observers have often commented we have a list thats starting to show something. we will surprise a few next year.. Wont be earth shattering...just a bit surprising :D

Im sure Bailey will play it by ear and have made sure he has insufficient manpower in reserve

whats your point...what are you trying to say ?? just curious. Of course I remember those games.. But my point is that if its Carlton.. then everyone looks teh other way.. but those Toffs from Melbourne hill...no.... different !!

play everyone out of position... invent diseases for players.. lose some in airports... tell others theyre bad boys and have to stay in their rooms. I really couldnt care less. We must lose this game..that is our only desirable outcome... the media and al can go jump. By all means kill off the PP next season. But weve had to work within the sytem as it exists to date so they better not tinker with it til seasons end. They created teh monster we just have to deal with it. So they call it tanking..who cares.. They would ALL do it if in this position. Any one of them that says otherwise is just full of shite..simple as that. This is about us...not them.. I Dont care about them !! Nowhere to hide?? who needs to hide.. come on Bailey... YOU CAN DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yep...just wait...they will start crying foul no bet !! All these teams and followers have such short and selective memories dont they !

manipulate, exploit, take advantage of, play for own ends : exactly what we should always be doing. We arent in this for the benefit of other teams are we ? whats next...card counting wrong ?? lol

the tanking debate I tire somewhat of Mr Hypocritical and 'only what I say means anything- Malthouse' and similar kindred souls taking aim if even under cloak of inuendo. we all know what the games about but some seem to think they can assume some higher moral ground by virtue of some god given right. Mick and Co...tell ya what...we at Melbourne will do what is best for melbourne and you can all lump it. Too much in this competition is lop sided, especially in fav of certain teams who seem to travel seldom and play almost exclusively at one ground, When you can play an even game Mickey, then and only thenwill anything you have to say carry weight.. So enough of the sarcy snide remarks Andy Maher might also be a bit more realistic and humble given his teams preferred oprion of flouting any rule and as often as seems warrnated for 'their' end...but ogd forbid any other team want to play fair dinkum within the rules ( as they are). KB was right to essentially ridicule him. Voss..youve been coaching 5mins...pull your head in. Seems when we decide we want to cast off our rangey and Volvo ties and get down and dirty ...they dont like it.. @#&% them !!

again..are we the poor trash that everyone can kick ? seems all were happy to overlook efforts of Richmond Carlton west Coast etc in past...but oh no..those dastardly demons are up to no good...ffs.. All and sundry in media and other footy outlets need to go take a running jump <_<

Carlton are no risk.....they'll want to play finals and will win. Roos...possibly a worry...but Crocker wants a win..and so do the Boners .. Freo is the only real concern...and a likely win.

and it could be argued then..( cough ) that you only know this by 'experimenting' !!

try Platinum !!! oustanding effort....all with a straight face too

success is often built from failure. I will have no compunction enjoying the cup raised and fully knowing it was aided by judicious application of a system not of our doing.

is does beg that question doesnt it. Very strange...all very strange hopefully the Bumbers will be just as useless against the Frockers at subi soon

keep in mind...midfileders can kick goals...ff cant play midfield.. its about priorities..literally. we lack a solid "A" clas midfiled that can grab a game by the scruff of its neck and win. We can improvise a forward line around what (watt ) is coming and what had already arrived. we can press gang in the mean time.. we cant sythesise a midfield ..it has to be real. 1)Scully 2) next best midfielder

it could probably change when it is arbited with agreement from all clubs.. i.e change to afterround 15.etc.

Maybe ive got this all wrong with Vlad...maybe he HAS the answer,,, Tanking doesnt exist ( officially ) and therefore teams can play to their priorities and allow the competition to balance ..just a thought ..

it will take a moment no matter how quick you are to register the sound of the siren and get that whistle to your mouth to call time.. ...until he blows it the ball is in play. any which way its done and dusted now..theres teh result..we lost...darn !! :D

all bets are off if we win two games... one being against freo,,, and if freo dont win any more then they would assume last possie..and get First pick.. so I respectfully disagree..its not really in our hands at all.. we are at the mercy of others results....or desire.

Either Bruce played an 'inspired' game...or he just played normally...either way...keep him in

we arent tanking by the way... its all to do with those Seagulls and Martians !!!,,those buggers