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beelzebub

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  1. Is it possible the op inadvertently stumbled upon what was actually happening ? Lol
  2. isnt that what were doing....trading, not drafting !!
  3. Just over a day to go. Who knows what still may happen . Filth were done and dusTed and lo and behold Theyve traded lol. Lots of last day stuff to come just not all of it will happen in time lol
  4. Im going to back Neeld and the FD. If they want a specific person to fill a particular role. Thats fine by me. After all theyve been planning these raids and delistings all year. They just might have a better clue than most of us. Happily put myself in the 'us' Theyve done the research.
  5. Thanks Adelaide . Top club !! Lights, camera, spotlight >>>>>Crows Lol
  6. If i had to choose one deal over the other.. Id go for Ray. This may well end up being all we get. However Pedersen would fit it well. Id like to get both. Nth are reaching and want everyone to help them. Clever of comes off Tic toc 2pm Fri looms Tic toc I expect a flurry of happenings later in day after the reality bus comes to town.
  7. As to op. I think a fair few fence sitters will again do that. Some foljs may 'buy in' a number will wait to see if the hype manifests as results. With some modicum of respectability on the field i sense the numbers could grow healthily. Theres a lot of people whod love Melbourne to be successful ...again. Theyre just burnt. Many eyes on this club now
  8. Ill start the guesses 40666
  9. Whilst I essentially agree im coming around to the ideas floated by some that we do what we need to do to get what we ant. Others can work it out for themselves as to value.We could cut off our nose to spite our face if not careful. We want what we want...our only available currency is the picks we have, they disappear as exchange come 2pm Friday
  10. fair pickup that.. 33 should be ok for Nth to float their Jacobs boatIm not sure anyone knows now how much reality there is in the WA thing. though where there was nothing purported to be something there might have been something all along..lol confused ?? I know I am
  11. No..Martin is ( for our needs ) a worse version of Pedersen
  12. Pedersen and Martin are DIFFERENT types, thats the whole rationale about who and what we want. Why do so many either miss this, ignore it or fail to grasp. Pedersen can do some of what martin does and some. Martin can do very little of what Pedersen can...thats the kapowee factor !!
  13. even funnier if it ended up happening..lol
  14. Hmmmmm........Let me digest all that but doesn't look too shabby. But would the Hawks actually use their effective first pick ? It would render them all but non participants in the draft. Interesting ideas though The Morton aspect is non dependent, just clears a space, that in itself might be warranted. Some nice thinking there TD. It does actually flow well and would seem to appease all.
  15. It's official . Most supporters are a bunch of hoarders lol No one wants to let anyone go ..... There all so "potential "ridden !! The reality is we can't keep them all, we don't need them all. Some are ok players but are either 3rdor4th to the plate, struggling with either the physical side or the mental sides of the game, some both. We just need enough effective players to perform as a cohesive ,competitive and successful team. There is only so much room in a lifeboat? We have to accept also there will be some players that whilst capable are just not a fit for the current mould. It's nota social club it a working environment. Jobs have to be done and there are only so many positions. I don't think Stefan fits the current design.
  16. I wonder what THEY'RE hiding ?? Lol
  17. Because Martin is doing precisely what for us ?Just for a moment disregard any preconceived notions. What roles can either do, and what roles do we require filling. Short answer is we don't have a lot of work for a super Gumby ruck type that gets lost in traffic but we do have a vacancy for a solid running back who can switch forward. It's all all about role playing. We don't actually NEED Martin, not in the current design of our team.
  18. Yep, everyone can circle their respective preys prior to the official start and then get stuck into it. Knowing you might have endless days (daze) to accomplish whatever might both expedite matters as well as forcing some reality checks upon the parties as to 'real world' worth !
  19. What I see as flawed in the views of some media types as well as general supporters is the pseudo fixed valuations of some players. It's essentially the same as money (currencies) used to operate. They were invariably fixed to this or that one. Then all other countries' worth was tethered. Compare to now where they float and can be volatile. Something out of favour diminishes very quickly. The player trade market is no different. It's all relative. At least with currencies you can buy or sell whatever you have, with player trading you have to work to the nearest pick that YOU have available. This is what throws the market even more askew. This is also why multi club multi player deals sometimes result as clubs try to realign the values with the picks avail. The other thing of note is picks aren't able to be stored ( generally) they have a once only use by tag. So you just have to make the best fist of your needs v their needs using what you have. Sometimes dovetailing is impossible and you just have to cobble together a deal that's close and all can live with. But the hacks want to apply their arbitrary rule of value. That's why they're hacks and team professionals aren't.
  20. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/west-coast-wants-to-secure-melbourne-wingman-cale-morton/story-e6frg6n6-1226502678376
  21. Don't count on that 3rd rounders is all Weagles likely to cough up.Folks you have to quit with the " he was ab4 pick" etc. it's like buying a car , drops value the second you've picked them. It's all relative. A market value is resultant upon what anyone wants to pay, whether that's housing, cars or even footy players. Be nice to get their 41 but doubt they'll cough that. I seriously think many teams just have to realise that with so many teams, so many compo picks that they just need to adjust. Of course o one really wants to do that , they know it, just want the others to, not themselves lol
  22. Good luck with that!!!You know that wont happen lol
  23. I would have thought we COULD do a deal... To suit us. Others want more.....thats how i see it.
  24. Itll be very 11th hour with much hand wringing unless sense wins out , yeah ... I know. The market hath spoken... but few are listening. We can at least stop now and still have had an incredibly successful campaign . This is OUR leverage.. We CAN stop; some others need to continue in order to achieve an outcome.
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