daisycutter

Simon Buckley? only joshing

darren jolly?

stuart spencer, donny williams?

Healy Swans 5 years 104 games- career twilight?

barassi?

....and wells, alves, healy?

the wizard didn't?

now that is a whole different argument first you would have to find a new elite competition for 18-20yo's to keep them in the game and primed we haven't and never will have the us college system will never happen and anyway as you said its (even more) arbitrary

can't argue with that

How can someone turning 18 on the 31st dec be old enough and someone turning 18 in feb not be old enough, both having completed year 12? the main reason the afl changed the date (by 4 months) was to allow young prospects to complete year 12 without the pressure/distraction of being on an afl list this was not hogan's position master bate was given dispensation by the afl before the draft because of special circumstances anyway the horse has bolted now the only time it was a possibility was before the national draft

its the opposite of a hypo bowl

what you say is largely true hardtack however the fact that there is gambling involved i believe is irrelevant players should present at their best for a number of reasons (including the fact they are handsomely paid) but not because of gambling's interests performance enhancing drugs is just outright cheating gambling of itself should not in any way dictate how the game is played deliberate match fixing however is a different issue

my only point billy is that it is not as black and white as you were trying to make out there are lots of permutations and theories you could apply but to you it was just CC = $500k which i think is overstating your hand he took a fall for the club (and incidentally the afl)

well billy, on your logic surely it would be $250k. The other $250k for bailey. Both admitted fault. in fact if bailey hadn't "taken CCs advice" there would be no fine. So maybe bailey is responsible for all the $500k all this of course presupposes the afl's $500k was "just" given we get topped up by the afl dividend based on our financial position you could argue the afl pays it which in turn means all the clubs contribute gets complicated doesn't it when you are looking for someone to hit on?

if what you quoted is accurate, probably his best post

Dawes 6'4" 193cm Sellar 6'5" 196cm but yes, definitely not crumbers

just because the afl is playing hardball on this issue is NO reason for the media to give up on it and rollover in fact it should encourage the media to do some digging and keep the issue live

AFL Intehgrity Unit = Army Intelligence = Oxymoron

given rats was unceremoniously sacked recently i wouldn't be surprised if he didn't have a few stories to tell, especially under threats and table thumping there again carlton does have the carlton crew for backup purposes

good point. lots of "comedy" comments at carlscum too apparently but they seem to be untouchable at the moment for some strange reason

bloody sneaky media.....stoop to anything for a story did you tell her to try sniffing around princes park and punt road?

hey biffo, who's the ugly bastard standing behind you?

amazing how the only reports of this excellent expose was some comments on jeff re vlad what a gutless media we have in this state/country i have lost all respect for the media along with the afl........in any other universe it would be considered corruption

He should take the afl to court for constraint of trade (and conduct unbecoming)

who said big fellas take time?