daisycutter

he gotcha there old dee

ht i don't begrudge them their money at all, honestly. it's probably poor recompense for what they have lost but the people smuggling industry runs on that money and that's a fact

i don't have proof re flying in to indonesia, only what i've read. regardless they seem to get into indonesia fairly easily and they do have reasonably large sums to pay the smugglers i don't have an issue with refugees having money, just pointing out that it helps them to bypass the official refugee processes and creates an ugly market for people smugglers re exacerbating the problem, i didn't say big or small just a problem, big was your addition. repeat. there is a process. use it. i accept that not all of the 35 million refugees in the world necessarily have access to our refugee process, but that would be impossible i'm sure you would accept that all those accepted through the officially sanctioned processes are worthy

the reason they don't fly direct to australia is the carriers won't let them board without a passport and visa etc they obviously have the money because an airfare is cheaper than what they pay the smugglers i have never said that their money makes them less deserving, but it does act as an incentive to get to indonesia and hence pay smugglers by bi-partisan i'm sure you understood that i was talking about that part of the program that sets a quota and administers the approved process for accepting refugees the rest of your post was just interesting detail but adds nothing to justify bypassing the established legitimate refugee processing program labor going soft on people smugglers has cost lives, large amounts of money, more misery and fattened the bank accounts of smugglers and corrupt indonesian officials

no i am suggesting the reason they go to indonesia in the first place is to pay smugglers to get them into australia and setting up a processing centre there will encourage more refugees to fly to indonesia what is so hard to understand that we already have a proper (UN sanctioned) process with processing centres the proper process is being bypassed and this would only exacerbate it the lack of indonesian UN sanction is also a barrier as it would be their processing centre not an UN one there are 35 million refugees (in and out country) in the world the vast majority are desperate and in a miserable position - that is a given those in indonesia are no different or more worthy (Increasing our quota is another debate)

yeah we've been camping out in the wilderness for 50 years

i if you like very ordinary humans od just take your gd to the food hall in any large shopping centre very educational

well you won't go for a picnic in a park next to the Gat again will you od?

why should the gov work with indonesia to have special processing centres? we already have a refugee program which is bi-partisan that program includes a process for orderly legal refugee immigration that program already has processing centres and an approved process making an exception for indonesia (which hasn't signed up to the UN refugee program) will just encourage more refugees with money to fly to indonesia and bypass the agreed processes in place for all

anyway it is nice for the people of shep that a solution (for now anyway) has been found interesting how CCA's 200mill (with 50mill needed gov subsidy) refurb is now adequate at 100mill (with 20mill gov subsidy plus conditions). if they hadn't gone for such a high ambit in the first case it may have been settled quicker and saved some angst i'd still like to see anti-dumping laws get some real teeth instead of moving at glacial speed (pre global warming that is)

you need to tone down a bit colin if you want to be taken seriously at the moment you sound hypocritical complaining about certain posters being so right wing and abusive whilst you act so left wing and abusive of course you can't see that because you are so politically obsessed fortunately politics in australia is not such a life and death issue as it is in many other places, though reading many political blogs in this country you would think it was it seems the religious vacuum in this country is being consumed by the political idealogues and bored academics

big deal. so you trawl through the internet (selectively of course) to throw up some predictable little titbit every day and find time to also throw some poster abuse around i'd say that was the predictable behaviour of a zealot and a cyber bully boy ​as i said before when you whined about certain posters - "and you dont?"

and you and hoody don't? you are both as predictable as what i do first every morning

any news on how many new memberships signed up?

yeah, i did get your drift. maybe i should have quoted previous poster

agree on spencer and strauss, but in their defence it was just one game. the job is ahead of them though blease was disappointing. might be his last year if the penny doesn't drop barry, still too early to say at this stage

alas the real issue here would be just "when" was "used to be" proper english is/was somewhat of an oxymoron

smith's catch in covers of de Villiers was a ripper too

Doolan's catches

i don't think any expert could enlighten you hoody too daunting a task even for an expert

Just watched the whole replay If that is not the most moronic commentating team i'll go he can't work out who was the worst dribbler out of dwayne and dermie fair dinkum they just totally detract from the game. bunch of pompous wanchors

no wonder there are no chinamen in romsey

i feel funny with a smile on my face - new experience i might get to like serves od right for going to springsteen

no inbreeding here bbo, just maintaining good pedigree lines