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may not be undermanned, curry, but some may be underdone still, not complaining

people who pay taxes, bbo, so i guess that excludes you

that's good gv. did you have any issues with body corp re positioning of dish? or did you just bypass them i presume body corp would be [censored] off having paid for cabling initially for it to now become redundant and cost of upgrading being prohibitive

perish the thought, md though i do know a neighbour who did this, combining his own home and holiday home (the holiday home had an existing sat dish when he bought it)

GV here is an explanation of why foxtel require two coax cables to their IQHD box http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2121846 Make sure you read the whole thread Main reason is that when they went to HD channels, some extra new cable channels and the new extra FTA channels they ran out of bandwidth So they put some channels on the second line and used Vertical Polarisation on the channel signal. On the first line the channels use Horizontal Polarisation The channels on the second line are the FTA channels and a small number of minor cable channels You can run an IQHD box with one cable and you just miss those channels Maybe you don't need the minor cable channels You can then get the FTA channels using your normal aerial cable to the TV (and selecting "TV" on your remote). I'm assuming you do have a separate aerial cable. To test if this suits you, you could borrow a friend's IQHD box and test it yourself (assuming your unit is wired up actively to the block's foxtel multiswitch - most likely) If satisfied you could try asking telstra for an IQHD box with one cable and you accept the consequences. Seems others have done this. A sneakier, cheaper way, is to get a family member who has foxtel IQHD and get them to subscribe for a second IQHD in another room. You then use this box and pay your relative the cost of the 2nd box P.S. if you wanted to record the FTA channels in this scenario, you would have to use either the TV's record function (if it has one) or a separate PVR (connected to aerial cable)

earl, agree with the substitutes only idea i would make one change. I would allow a temporary substitute if a player has to come off to receive medical attention. Such player must wait a min of 10 mins before resuming field. (afl to determine what constitutes medical attention and to monitor) e.g. blood rule, stiches, concussion testing etc

are we nearly there?

does make one wonder. rjay

"Collingwood’s tissues are biologically advanced. We need to change our biology for a little while.” boy, dank is the master of double talk. that statement means nothing but implies a lot the guy is a witchdoctor

well they currently do this with alcohol which last time i looked was legal all boils down to what the aflpa will tolerate in a contract

well one thing would be to increase the number of tests from a current average of <1 per player per year hardly a serious amount of testing

strictly speaking, handling it inside the club is probably breaking the law (i did say strictly speaking) so, how is the club going to know someone turned up to training stoned (without testing)? then there is the question of duty of care. What if someone is seriously injured at training or in a match when under the influence. at least the testing regime (afl responsibility) indicates some care. no testing would indicate what? afl football is a dangerous sport, made more so if not in full possession of your faculties. the club could be sued if someone got seriously hurt when a player was stoned (even a little) there is probably a better argument for no testing in the off season problem then though is you can pick up bad habits or get addicted which are hard to shake off in the season proper not an easy problem, but with no restrictions could easily get out of hand

no, they're are better paid than airline pilots and bus drivers the clubs have a huge financial investment in them and can't afford to have them turn up stoned to training or matches, or just addicted the aflpa signed off on the "recreational" drug testing regime

seems the anzac cup might have to be renamed the Ped Cup

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yes i find this hard to understand willy boys would have had 10% of the conditioning as our melbourne boys in the pre-season they should have finished all over them as far as fitness goes

for a while i thought the tattooed dude at the start was mitch clark....i thought wtf

talking of father/son is young billy stretch playing?

he has some great hair and teeth restorer pills too, jazza. check him out (i'm on commission so you'll be doing me a favour too)

gv, instead of using a cable connect (and your dodgy apartment cabling) any chance you could get foxtel to provide a satellite connection which could support an iq box?

he's called "grape"?

still don't get it an iq box is just a signal decoder with a builtin pvr to use foxtel you have to have a signal decoder did they say what sort of box gets installed in your unit?

how can you get foxel but not get an iq box?

they can't get off because they were duped they can be found guilty and get a penalty reduction if "duped", but they are still guilty if this is the case the club is in trouble.....and presumably later could be issued INs......or the afl negotiate a club penalty (afl preferred method)

if the players get off, the club gets off...........i think there is also dank in these charges. if he gets found guilty this implicates the club i presume who knows though, the afl could do anything