daisycutter

does the right to not self incriminate apply in non criminal cases? i presume so, but can anyone clarify

isn't this the "no t$ no b$ no jh" thread?

no-one from essendope no-one from the filth

damaged goods.......and we've had enough of them

you do realise telstra half own foxtel?

well i suppose there is no easy definition of which issues are best put to a plebiscite/referendum vis-a-vis parliament (except for constitution mandated stuff) over the last 2 governments both have shown when in power a reluctance to take on the responsibility both parties did though go into their respective governments with an official policy of no-change so a plebiscite/referendum is a good circuit breaker and maybe more democratic than a pollie's conscience (which is possibly an oxymoron) it was good enough for the irish and there's plenty of irish blood here like i said, don't sweat it

you're probably right choke these sort of restrictive practices will just lead to piracy and other forms of illegal access. a pox on them all

agree, there is no doubt a groundswell and i think a plebiscite/referendum would probably win. i'd be very surprised however if the result was 70% or 70+% if i had to take a punt i'd say somewhere in the 55-60% but don't hold or quote me on that whether it is decided by a pollie vote or plebiscite/referendum makes little difference to me personally i think i would prefer a plebiscite though but not a biggie for me it's gonna happen and relatively soon. don't sweat it....lol

yes

yes, true. but what's the bet they spend more on them than the difference they made on the deal? guess we'll never know of course if in the long run (when?) afl get a decent toe-hold in nsw/qld it will be worth it. but big if.

or tattoo rescue and embarrassing bodies

maybe he is implying slobbo sees james as elagabalus

choke, i think that tv content that comes under the anti-siphoning umbrella has to be available on the prime channel

gov regulators had some rule (supposedly) that the private tv channels had to keep their main channel at SD due to many customer receivers not being able to receive HD in the initial stages of the changeover to digital-only. obviously this is now less of a concern due to the small no. of SD-capable only customer so the regulators are relaxing the restriction at least this what they are saying. I'd never heard of this regulation previously

don't hold your breath jnr

agree with you 110%

Embattled James Hird gone as Essendon seeks fresh start MARK ROBINSON HERALD SUN AUGUST 18, 2015 10:22PM JAMES Hird’s tenure at Essendon had an end date about the time of last year’s best-and-fairest count. It was not a matter of if, but when. It was a tumultuous time, Hird being back from France and Mark Thompson in the coach’s chair, and the Bombers were conflicted. Chairman Paul Little moved to sack Hird the day after the count when “Bomber” was thought to be in prime position to keep the job, but Little missed his mark. But that didn’t stop him trying. Two days later, on Saturday, October 4, Little rang Hird and offered Hird money to walk away from the club. We’re not talking Little’s ashtray money, either. We’re talking in the vicinity of $3 million-plus. Again, Hird said no. It wasn’t about the money, it was about looking after the players, about what he believed was right and wrong, about how he believed the AFL had railroaded Essendon and himself and how he believed the players would have nothing to answer. He wanted the truth to be known and he would never stop fighting for the truth. Call him delusional, ego-driven and narcissistic, but add to that resilient. Even the most vociferous Hird haters would admit he had balls. Hird caved in on Tuesday for the first time since this wretched affair began in February 2013. And he caved in because the Bombers caved in on him. Not the players, mind you, some of whom were fighting tears at Tuesday’s press conference and were said to be devastated by the club’s decisions. The board made this happen, so it’s difficult to accept the narrative that Hird resigned and wasn’t sacked. As late as Sunday afternoon, Hird told confidants he would not to be stepping down. Things were moving, but he still believed the board understood the mindset of the players and how it was affecting their performances. Little said on Tuesday he and Hird met four weeks ago to discuss the future. Just two weeks ago, however, Bombers chief executive Xavier Campbell said this: “James is contracted next year and James will coach the club next year. 100 per cent. I can’t see anything else changing between now and then.’’ What changed was two heavy losses, and Little and the board decided the club could not move on with the coach. Let’s be honest: the AFL would be delighted to see the back of Hird. At a recent club chief executives’ conference with the AFL, Campbell was told by the AFL that Essendon’s best chance of recovery was to cut Hird adrift. Campbell confirmed the conversation to Hird. The AFL didn’t instruct Campbell to sack Hird, but believed it to be in the club’s best interests that the club move on without him. The AFL would now be satisfied. It got what it wanted without having to fire the bullet. Commission chairman Mike Fitzpatrick had already asked Hird why he hadn’t resigned; former chief executive Andrew Demetriou would be disappointed he didn’t see Hird gone before he left; and current chief executive Gillon McLachlan, who had barely spoken to Hird since replacing Demetriou, won’t lose a minute’s sleep. The board — the same board that had pleaded with Hird to take a year’s suspension covering the 2014 season, for the good of the club — turned on him. Make no mistake: if the board had stuck by him, Hird would still be coach. In the end, he ran out of allies. The club he’s known since he was knee-high to a grasshopper, where his grandfather and father played, where he was a champion and a Brownlow medallist and a premiership captain, cut him adrift. The Bombers are a laughing stock on the field and will be accused of being the same off it. Remember the golden ticket? Hird and Thompson arrived together, their beaming smiles on offer in the cockpit of the World War II fighter plane. Five years later, Thompson hates the club and Hird hates football. Since 2011, the club has paid Matthew Knights for 2011-2012, when he didn’t coach, and now they have paid Hird close to $2 million to not coach in 2014 and 2016. Anyone looking for a reason to run a ticket against those in charge? Opinion on Hird was divided on Tuesday, but the majority appeared to believe the club had made the right decision; that something had to give; that a circuit-breaker was needed; that, ultimately, Hird had to be held responsible for what happened in 2012. The board agreed. It’s a pity they couldn’t wait for the WADA appeal to be over — and won — to be that circuit-breaker. Little is a good man. He took the role when David Evans couldn’t do it and made an enormous contribution. But if there’s a criticism, it’s that Little could swing in the breeze. He would fight the AFL, and then stop. He would appeal to the Federal Court, and then stop. He would give Hird two years’ extension, then end it after just one. He marched Hird out not because of recent results, but for the continued fallout from the ASADA-AFL-WADA investigation, which Hird could never really let go. After the Round 15 win over Melbourne, the headlines were on Hird’s comments about individuals at the AFL. The Bombers told him to cool it. He did. But even without Hird’s creating noise, the pressure built and built. Tuesday won’t be a circuit-breaker. It will be the start of a civil war, in which fans will turn on the club, fans will support the club, the board will be probably in the gun, and players will ask themselves: Why should I stay here? And God only knows who will coach the club. As for Hird, the dream is over. He was party to a supplements program which brought the club and by the end, his football career, to its knees. He will miss the players and the buzz of footy. But in return, he will get back a family and a sense of normality. In the quiet times, he might think that was a good swap. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/embattled-james-hird-gone-as-essendon-seeks-fresh-start/story-fnp04d70-1227489045785

we could always go the full hog and be like greece where everyday is a holiday

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/james-hird-makes-a-graceful-exit-as-he-departs-as-essendon-coach/story-fnp04d70-1227488989802 John Ralph James Hird makes a graceful exit as he departs as Essendon coach ESSENDON’S greatest fear was when James Hird ­departed it would be kicking and screaming, the prelude to a costly unfair ­dismissal suit. But on Tuesday, Essendon made the only decision it could and yet, perplexingly, it was one of James Albert Hird’s finest hours. Make no mistake, if Hird could see a way clear of this bloody and brutal saga, he would still have been in an ­Essendon tracksuit instead of navy blue pinstripes at 3.15pm. But when the inevitable came, Hird’s exit appearance was almost note perfect. It was, all at once, a reminder of why he could have been a great coach, and why he never could be at Essendon. The club was able to pitch Hird’s decision to resign as a magnanimous gesture, his ­urgings so relentless they were almost forced to accept his overture to move on. How noble of them. And, to his eternal credit, Hird declined the opportunity for recriminations and chest-beating. Instead, he admitted he had come to the realisation many have known for so long — to move on, Essendon had to be a James Hird-free zone. Paul Little pitched it as “a fresh start and a clean slate” but Hird wants only that this once-great club to be “a normal football club again”. Now Hird can move on after as graceful an exit as a sacked coach can make. And by the time the 2016 season rolls around, with Little expected to have moved on, this truly will be a club recast in every way since the 2012 supplements program that ruined so many lives and careers. Amid a narrative that Hird was putting himself before a football club, it was hard to warm to a coach many have not forgiven for receiving $1 million not to coach. As his staff watched on and his players huddled behind him, he was softer and more reflective. He spoke of his deep ­relationships with his players, the extraordinary toll these years had taken on his family, the advice from confidantes that he live a life away from the spotlight. Tellingly, he passed up the chance to rip into Stephen Dank, to tip buckets on ASADA. “I feel the club needed space,’’ he said, revealing he had several times in recent weeks offered his resignation to Little and chief executive Xavier Campbell. As the losses grew heavier and the players’ state of mind grew more dire, the refusals from his bosses grew weaker. Almost always when a coach is sacked after months of ever-intensifying pressure, the deed itself sees an entire club let out a huge sigh of relief. Hird’s desire for a “normal club” is perhaps only months away from being fulfilled. By Christmas, Essendon’s players could be cleared of doping charges, with a new coach and executives, and a new brand to sell to eager fans. Or at worst, perhaps 10 of those players might face a month’s suspension given the backdated penalties and excessive delays in this wearying ASADA/WADA case. Then, Essendon can make itself what it wants to be again.

well there are obviously two sides to any coin having said that i get a strong feeling coming from everywhere that this is not a popular decision personally, i'm unaffected either way, being retired

statistically speaking statistics are correct 107% of the time

odds on

bit like comparing diarrhoea to constipation though, these days. both stil sh..

boy-o-boy, wow-ee, what a big day in footy chicken little shot bambi, the afl won the jackpot lotto and danny boy declares a holiday for the visitors from west coast and freemantle

http://www.sen.com.au/news/08-15/hird-s-exit-was-stage-managed-robbo