daisycutter

best way to help it go away is firstly to return the medal then for slobbo et al (including gill the dill) to quit the apologia.......but i don't believe the zealots want it to go away

think d-l had a hand in designing it

just watched a lengthy ad on 7two for a women's footy game between mfc and brisbane for Sun 5th Feb......interesting (today being the 6th for those a bit slow on the uptake, )

whatever.....at least plant a few wind break trees.....cost you next to nothing

they're just a little jaded nothing major

his manager kelly said in december "the dog ate it". essendon club said they haven't even discussed it with watson. they all seem to be giving the finger to the afl who in their normal mo seem incapable (or scared) to make any decisions to put an end to the debacle. shades of "maintain the rage", play the martyr

another puke article by slobbo on watson's downlow

if they were going to strike, they need to find a way that has minimal impact on the fans. i can think of some things but doubt they would concern the afl greatly

have you ordered an orange wig yet, ethan

I blame reality tv, the cult of celebrity and ....of course.... jack watts

i query your optimism, earl

not the base pay......the average pay and i query the $300k average because 44 x 300k is 13,2M which is appreciably above the salary cap

yes, whatever they get will be compared or expressed (by some) as a % of afl income........but there will be no contracted % of afl income (if the afl have their way). the afl will only want to express it as a % increase on their previous deal to put it publicly for them in the best light

very much doubt they will get a contracted %. they don't now and that would set a precedent the afl don't want at all costs they will be offered a generous pay increase graded over the term of the media rights deal

it's true we are not normally on the afl's side. we have also in the past been quite critical of the aflpa, how they are funded, what they do and don't do etc. as for how the afl spend their tv rights windfall, then that's a separate discussion and many here have quite rightly suggested obvious areas where they should be spending more

not sure that is accurate, macca. the afl are offering the players more money. the aflpa is saying we want a fixed % as an ongoing contract and are nominating a %. either way the players will get more money so a pay rise in itself not the issue, nor is arguing about whether the players deserve more money. all agree on that. It's all about how much. the afl don't seem to want to budge on the issue of a fixed %. Maybe the aflpa just want to scare the afl with the % tactic to force a bigger $ deal than the afl are offering . It's a good bargaining tactic. as usual in these deals no-one is saying what they really are prepared to accept.

must be working, ethan, they definitely looked curley.to me......especially if i scrunch my eyes just a little

are you predicting the demise of the abc, wyl? lol

as i understand it, the issue is not whether the players get a pay rise..... but whether they get a fixed % of all afl income... the distinction is important.

in dollars maybe but not in trades. fyfe is fa

sorry choke, but your point 2 is such a silly, meaningless comment

normally people on rehab, not doing the weights etc plus being on end of season break put on weight. if he has lost significant weight it is more likely due to intentional change of diet and probably at the fd's direction

don't you mean ponzi, biffo?

is that like sashay, steve?.....see jordan lewis above

or GoodyTwoShoes aka GTS?