Everything posted by daisycutter
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - MICHAEL HIBBERD
plenty on demonland did. club must have thought it was a chance.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - MICHAEL HIBBERD
hehe, next years pick is gonna slide a lot more
- The No T$ No B$ Thread
- The No T$ No B$ Thread
- The No T$ No B$ Thread
- The No T$ No B$ Thread
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Kobe Farmer
does year 8 mean "school-year-8" i.e. probably under 15's?
- The No T$ No B$ Thread
- Chris From Camberwell!
- Chris From Camberwell!
- WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB – JAKE MELKSHAM
- WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB – JAKE MELKSHAM
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB – JAKE MELKSHAM
the view that tb4 had no benefit (debatable) on essendon players' performance, and the other view that tb4 should not be a banned substance (also debatable) are complete red herring arguments and have no impact on guilt or otherwise.. the fact is that tb4 was a known wada banned ped at the time essendon injected it to their players in a secretive and undeclared (to wada) fashion, and that the essendon players were contractually obliged to follow the wada drug protocol under threat of banning conditions. it is as simple as that. the rest is obfuscation. the proportionality of guilt between the club officials and the players is an interesting discussion but does not reduce any guilt to zero. the players were ultimately treated leniently in wada punishment terms to effectively 1 playing season. it is also worth noting they rejected the much earlier reported opportunity that would have meant only missing 4 matches. i'm sure cronulla players now feel vindicated they took the deal offered initially for cooperation. added: oh, and incidentally this type of discussion should really be in the other thread
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - JOEL SMITH
i think they are out of the cap
- WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB – JAKE MELKSHAM
- WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB – JAKE MELKSHAM
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB – JAKE MELKSHAM
there is nothing contradictory about being performance enhancing and having other desirable medical benefits. why is that such a hard concept to understand? there is also a documented procedure in wada whereby in certain cases and for certain drugs under certain strict conditions, permission can be given to use banned drugs for medical purposes.
- WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB – JAKE MELKSHAM
- WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB – JAKE MELKSHAM
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB – JAKE MELKSHAM
yeah, i heard that too ernest. However at the start of the year i was at a family do and my wife's cousins are all mad bomber fans. I asked them what they thought and they all thought he was a good pickup who was down a little on form in 2015 probably because of all the pressure re asada at the club, meaning he became a bit of a whipping boy to some. guess we will all find out next year. btw i consider jake has done the crime/done the time and starts off with a second chance, so i hope he succeeds. I was against the trade initially and events proved that correct in at least one aspect (i.e. out for a year) but that's now water under the bridge and we move on
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB – JAKE MELKSHAM
ah, so now you have moved the goal posts from "CAS aint a Court." to " It is not a Court of Law and is not......" it is still a court of arbitration which the players (by legal contract) have agreed to as part of the administration of the laws of the game pertaining to the use of substances.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB – JAKE MELKSHAM
i don't understand your beyond a reasonable doubt level of proof comparison as no-one here is claiming this is a criminal case and as you know. civil cases in "genuine" courts of law adopt a level of proof even lower than that used by cas and yes, we understand, we (posters) aren't privy to all the evidence. and we understand the separate findings under worksafe laws which was a different issue to peds which is what was under discussion.
- WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB – JAKE MELKSHAM
- WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB – JAKE MELKSHAM
- WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB – JAKE MELKSHAM