daisycutter

would I pull your leg old dee??????????????

It gets worse......apparently his middle name is Uriah.......

$100/week wouldn't even cover Phat Phils pie sauce bill!

Robbie, your argument is fine. Just change it to " What is disturbing to me is the AFL appears to have lost its failed to establish a moral compass on this or any other issue."

Robbie, it is impossible to lose something you never had B)

I think they are far better at bending over forwards when its in their grubby interests

geez, he's got a Dunny porno tache........as if his name doesn't give him enough attention

glad someone else has a warped mind

why do you wonder two-dogs?

I am following exactly what you are saying I only commented (whimsically) that you didn't answer the question but rather your implication of the question (that implication probably correct) Jim said the rules (AFL) encourage young players to lie, but he didn't say that meant HWFUA was lying nor IMO did he imply it......but he left the door open enough to say that it was a possibility. I suspect the club deep down had concerns that he may be already committed to GWS but no hard and fast facts, therefore they played it the way they did

Freddie Clutterbuck Club: East Perth Age: 20 Height: 182 cm Weight: 78 kg Medium midfield player Edit: nickname Breddie

nicely dodged rpfc and threw in a straw man too No, the answer is simply that Jim looked at the rules and made a reasonable deduction that many others did too. Nothing mysterious there

Could a mod please direct Parma to the Waylen Manson thread on the trading and drafting board?

The Fat Controllers biggest sin is his handling of Clash Jumpers and his insistence on 'predominately white' thought I'd just drop that one in.....

My apologies bing. Neeld did say that and quite categorically too, not just a bit of normal spin Frankly I'm amazed he went so far in his comments I guess we'll see if he picks him 1st round I certainly hope he makes it, but my comments were more to the point that his record would seem to indicate he has a long way to go, and some posters seemed to be getting a little carried away.

Rochford Devenish-Meares?

Maybe he was misquoted? He might have said genocide? or generosity?

I'm getting good vibes on Rory Lets hope they are the same good vibes I had when Jeremy Howe was picked Good luck and welcome Rory

If you really want a conspiracy theory then there is evidence that HWFUA was secretly planned from birth to be a GWS player. It seems his parents even timed his birth to ensure he would end up being a Giants player. It is no coincidence that his birthdate of 15.5.1991 (15+5+1991= 2011=4) sums to the exact numeric value as do the initials GWS ( 7+23+19=49=13=4). This family has been planning this for a very long time. Shoddy, Grubby and Dimwit were just pawns in a bigger conspiracy.

just maybe as a rookie. he would need to convince club he is prepared to be full-time and fair dinkum. might make it mon

where has he said that he expects him to be a KPP in 2012

Rubbish (re the player welfare argument) If the instruction to steer clear of a player is obviously intended towards not performing at best or losing a game then it is tanking. If the player then under instructions allows his player to beat him pointless then he is tanking too regardless of whether he was following instructions or not. It didn't work at Nuremburg and it doesn't work here Anway getting back to the original claim by you that McMahon Cup was the most blatant example of tanking. My belief is that the Kreuzer Cup was more blatant (or at least as prominent and obvious) If the AFL was so upset about McMahon Cup and wanting to extract some payback, why weren't they equally looking for payback over the Kreuzer Cup right............sure............(cough) .

we are talking here of Carlton not Bailey. You already agreed that Ratten told his players (or some of them) to not go near Trapper and that they didn't. That therefore makes them complicit in tanking. Like I said, simple logic

If the coach gave a player an instruction to tank and the players agreed then the players tanked. It's quite simple and a different proposition to playing players out of position and leaving key players on the bench at critical times and for long periods. The Carlton players tanked.

well explain how trapper johnstone got 40+ kicks with no-one within 10m of him if players didn't tank and how did we thrash a side that was roughly at our standard if not slightly better