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I remember them, mate, I remember....hell, we were all there.... What the bleep has happened????

I hope so, D26, I hope so.....

Strategy? That would be a [censored] miracle!!!

I'm there! I've been seduced my the bar staff @ Etihad, particularly Danesh - son, you're a star.

Errr....no.

Bingo!

Sorry, this is nothing new to me. Another revival! Another straight shootin' cowboy! More sackings! Like Benjamin the donkey in Animal Farm, I'll sit and wait......

He's got 12 blokes that he could rotate through the midfield.

Yes....but, this point has been discussed at length by so many, over so many years, by so many posts. It's not new.

These guys came in because of their ability to build a 'culture.' You know what? I don't give a rats any more. Give me a laid back, smokin', wild boy from the West who gets the effin ball and kicks goals!!

Hey DJ, he's making all the right sounds in wanting to stay, but if he goes, he goes. Hopefully, the club will scour the land to find a hard edged midfielder that will work with Joneses and Viney. 2nd rounder would be very generous on the AFL's part....I'd take it.

Sylvia can go wherever he wants. He is UFA. Cannot be traded. Compensation would be around a third or fourth draft pick?

I just don't blindly aspire him to be the messiah. I will respectfully wait and observe to see what happens - has to be more than just sackings.

Hey P_Man. Hope you're well. What he subscribes to is obvious. Do you really think that others haven't tried? I'm just less seduced by this bloke as many others on this forum. Btw, we tried ruthless? Remember? Some precious ones on our list threatened to walk because it got too hot. Never mind.

I was going to reply in the same tone and rudeness, but I'll save it for someone more worthy.

DL, with all due respect, we all know that culture is the issue, but as you said, let's have a tangible solution. Is culture the reason Scully walked? Is it more embedded than we have ever realised?

Why is everyone putting so much faith in this bloke?? I suppose we're all damaged and cling onto any hope of a perceived saviour. Sacks a few people. Big deal. Where's his vision?

Hope you're right D26. If he does, I want him to deliver the pill with the attitude of a Selwood or a Mitchell. With a snarl, with arrogance, with disdain.

It's not about shooting up the ladder. It's about stripping the culture of meekness and getting some combative spirit on the list.

I assume this post is aimed at me? At least you've made the conscious decision to engage on a positive level. For years and years we have maligned the demise of the hard nut at our footy club. We now have two. A third would have been Wines who plays the game with rigour, loves the contest and gets his own ball. I have not seen any of these traits in Jimmy Toumpas. If we're going down the stats route, we got smashed in clearances in 2012. Another opportunity gone to recruit a ready made hard nut.

Indeed? Are we repressing the dark thought that another draft mistake has been committed??

As WYL said, impact players were needed. Jimmy doesn't have the presence or strength to impose himself on a game. Wines has done it in his first year.

Sure?

Forget about Daniel Cross. Will probably retire at the end of the season. Will be 31 next year and injuries are catching up with him.

Did Viney pick Toumpas so that Vines wouldn't show up Jack jnr?