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It's a fairly common opinion tbf on Dwayne. I don't think we'll do much better than 14yh but we are rebuolding That being said, his reasoning was that we lost Petracca, Oliver and premiership winning coach Simon Goodwin Tracc I'll concede is a loss. Although, I still think he's a bad kick, and you can have a midfields mad eup of Petracca, Viney and Oliver and at least one of them had to be removed. The Oliver one is bizarre to me - a lot of saying we've lost on of our best players. Oliver hasn't been elite and hasn't been one of our best players for years now. And we've effectively replaced him with Jack Steele who's a much better leader and will get the same output - something these media heads have completely forgotten Simon Goodwin going needed to happen too, I still think he's a decent coach but he was s far past it with the Dees

I'm not sure really sure what you mean by cycle considering a it's the first actual state vs state game in the 21st century (first in 27years), hardly a cycle. I think it's a great idea to get rep footy back with the best players in the league playing. Just about every other team from has a form of top level representative (ie. Playing for your country or state). Plus it's less than handfull of players from each club, I'm sure the game plan and all that will be fine. Me and my mates are keen for it, and I've got mates from WA that are keen for it and are going. A few of us are getting together to watch it. Obviously we don't know how it will go, but it's not a waste of time for us - but that's okay you don't have to watch it :)

I really disagree, I'm very keen for State of Origin to return and I'm glad we have players in it, it'll be a good experience for them and I like to think it as extra training for them anyway. Gawny said it best, the players that play in it won't play in the other pre season match for their club, so the risk for injury is essentially the same Plus players get injured in weird circumstances that have nothing to do with state of Origin: Hogan jamming his fingers in a door, Rampe tripping over a chain fence, Mills wrestling with his mates etc Anyway sorry to stray from the thread title, just getting a little sick of the negativity around SOO around here

A shred of context and who it is would be nice

We went 6-8 (including the straights sets here) after that 10-0 start and we really weren't that injured, we had all our A-listers out there and yes we did have some banged up players but refused to make any changes to the side and kept playing them- which was all topped off when we went in "no changes" into that semi final against Brisbane. That wasn't bad luck and injuries, that was poor management and poor coaching. We need to own that, rather than blaming external factors and "bad luck" - which is what has lead us to 2 consecutive straight sets losses and now 2 consecutive bottom 5 finishes.

I do think it would be nice to get an established key forward, but it doesn't solve everything like a lot people think it does. There's a lot more that goes into it such as game plan, the way the mids kick it in etc. I mean look at Carlton with 2 Coleman medalist Key Forwards , they struggle like crazy to kick a great score for the most part

Thanks mate, I post on Bigfooty and Reddit very occasionally and just read up around here but just felt like adding my 2 cents, I meant no malice. I love the Dees and only want what's best for the club. I still like Simon Goodwin as well, he has been coach during a large amount of my favourite Dees games and moments ever. I just think all good things come to an end and his time is up.

Lol , took me 2 minutes and I'm sure I've got more posts to make that don't involve you. It's a football forum, we're all sad here. It's also here for discussion, I'm not "telling you off" or trolling. I'm discussing with you. If you can't discuss on a forum, ignore everyone's points and then feel the need to call me sad, maybe a forum isn't the best place to do that. I'd say that's more troll behaviour than what my post was.

I didn't like this response so much that it compelled me to make an account lol That poster made some legitimate well measured points and you basically ignored all of them. On the flipside of your answer I've got examples of new coach changes that have actually helped clubs in the last 10 years or so. Look at Collingwood after Craig McRae joined, look at GWS after Kingsley joined, look at Hawthorn now that Sam Mitchell has taken the reigns, look at West Coast After Adam Simpson joined, look at the Swans after Horse joined. I could honestly keep going on the many more coach changes that have helped but I can't be bothered right now. All of these coaches were the head coach before those guys took over: Nathan Buckley Leon Cameron Clarko John Worsfold Paul Roos All of them are good to great coaches who won flags or got to grand finals, multiple prelims and whatnot, but after a long tenure (eg. 8-10years) it became pretty clear that they were no longer taking their clubs forward and that the clubs needed a new voice. We can add Simon Goodwin to that list. He's always going to be a premiership coach and no one can take that away from him. But it's so clear that after 4 years in a row of linear regression that we need change. Of course it's not solely on him, but he's the head coach, he's a big part of it. And yes a new coach doesn't mean that everything else is fixed, there's a lot that goes into it, but it's absolutely a start Goodwin will be fine as well, he's a good bloke, well respected in the industry and another club will pick him up as a very experienced assistant coach.